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Author: Subject: Rumour Crap 2017: PT 2
CCharger
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posted on 7-19-2017 at 08:07 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Brock Lesnar is reportedly considering a return to the UFC, and wants to drop the title at SummerSlam to facilitate that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakeoestriecher/2017/07/19/brock-lesnar-reportedly-seeking-ufc-return-set-to-drop-wwe-universal-title-at-summerslam/#64b cc82d4002





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posted on 7-19-2017 at 10:23 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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That was all over the local news here. Good to hear that nobody got hurt.

On a side note, though:

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The OPD are now mulling over charging Paige for Battery (Domestic Violence) over the incident.

www.prowrestlingsheet.com/police-suggest-paige-charged-battery-airport-incident-state-attorney-reviewing-case/#.WW-c23PTXqB



Good to see that Florida's slow transition into Gilead under the watchful gaze of GOP Talibaptist social conservatives will ensure that no matter how many beatings a woman receives from a full-grown male she'll be the first one charged if she breaks down or gets uppity in public.





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posted on 7-19-2017 at 11:19 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Goddamn does Lesnar have a sweet deal. Paid millions, so protected that not even the golden child has beaten you, and he can fuck off whenever he wants to.
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posted on 7-20-2017 at 01:22 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Yeah. Sweet to be sure but get real. He is potentially saying fuck the sweet deal to get back in the Octagon against a real fighter (not that he isn't, don't get me wrong) which can risk it all.

Fair play Brock, you're a unique guy in this crazy crossover world. And what a fucking amazing friend to have in Heyman who means that if its true and you do go back to UFC, even if you lose he will make it mean more money for both of you in WWE.

Kudos for keeping it real dude.

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posted on 7-20-2017 at 01:52 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The cynic in me thinks this might be a ploy by Lesnar and his camp to squeeze more money out of Vince.





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 03:19 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Becuase his $12M for 2016 isn't enough and Cena was in striking distance at $8M.





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 03:20 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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TNA doesn't really get credit for 3 out of your 4 examples because Joe, Aries, and especially Styles were names outside of that promotion before they ever went to work there. And Roode benefitted from getting to be introduced to the company through the typically smark heavy NXT crowd. I don't think it's a stretch to say if Roode had just randomly debuted on an episode of Smackdown that he wouldn't have gotten anything approaching that reception (I was at Money in the Bank and experienced the "who the fuck is this?" reaction for Mike Bennett firsthand).


I'll bite on the narrow point - how was AJ Styles not more established by TNA than ROH (I assume the other option, rather than his minute in WCW)? I'll buy that Joe and Aries had looooong ROH World Championship reigns before their significant TNA time - though frankly, I still don't buy that no-national-TV ROH made anyone a name comparable to 2008 TNA-on-Spike. But TNA was promoting AJ Styles heavily from 2002 forward, no?





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 07:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Yeah, AJ was pretty much the franchise of TNA for a long while, almost the equivalent to them as Sting was to WCW. Which is what made people who'd followed the promotion for the long haul even more mystified and angered when Dixie lowballed him and drove him out of the fed a few years back.

Joe established himself in RoH, but probably got wider exposure in TNA and his feud with Angle there is certainly one of the signature feuds of his career. Again, they completely bungled him but they pretty much bungled everything from the Hogan/Bischoff era on, with a few rare bright spots here and there.

Aries is definitely more of an RoH guy - he only had a brief run as a main eventer in TNA, although his run there was very entertaining, whether it was the X title or tag teaming with Bobby Roode. But his most famous TNA moment is probably when he notoriously humped Christy Hemme's face with his sweaty balls because he's an enormous douchebag.

Question: does anyone think Lashley would be a big deal if WWE somehow brought him back? He's treated as a huge dominant beast in TNA now, but I never really saw him that way and he was in WWE at a time when I wasn't paying close attention.





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 09:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
TNA did handle Lashley better by allowing him to become a near-monster heel, especially the way they had him go around collecting all the belts he could from the sheer destruction of the previous title holders. They really expanded the scope of what he's capable of and he's matured enough as a performer since he left WWE that he was able to really run with the gimmick. If he went back to WWE he'd probably be pigeon-holed again as a permanent face just because of that nice-guy aw-shucks sort of facial features he has; Bayley is probably permanently stuck in the face role too because of the same thing. He's probably better off in GFW or somewhere else because these days WWE just would be able to summon the creativity to think up something new for him besides the role of kind-hearted well-meaning lug he's already done.

* for what it's worth, coming from an outfit that's more full of shit than pro boxing was under Don King, UFC is denying the reports that Lesnar has applied to return to their ranks in 2018 after his WWE contract expires





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 12:13 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Isn't Brock Lesnar on some kind of double-secret probation with UFC because of that drug test he failed last year? I thought he couldn't go back there for a hell of a long time.
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posted on 7-20-2017 at 12:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
UFC need to sell PPV's, they'll have him back as soon as they can, same as John Jones. Lesnar is suspended at present, his 1 year suspension from last year was suspended when he retired in February. If he wrote to UFC and NSAC to say he's un retiring, his suspension re-starts, and he'd be ready to go again in December/January.

UNLESS - it's Nevada that banned him, and although they all typically hold up other states deciosions, the corrupt NYC commission allowed him to fight at MSG in November anyway.

I don't see Vince offering Lesnar mega money like he did 3 years ago. He's not proving to be a draw any more.





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posted on 7-20-2017 at 03:35 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I just don't see the point of Lesnar doing it. He needed to take Hunt to the distance last year, and Hunt is one of the older dogs in the UFC scene. Maybe Lesnar just needs to get knocked out one more time to realize he isn't gonna steamroll guys anymore, let alone be a champion again.

What Lesnar should worry about, if he's prideful of doing the best he can, is to start having awesome matches again. Man, he's capable of so much more in the ring, and he could have some classics with some guys if he really wanted to.

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posted on 7-20-2017 at 04:29 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
A lot of old fighters who already made millions always seem to come back for underwhelming performances. They just seem to enjoy the adrenaline of stepping into a fight it seems. Hell, for some guys it's all about going the distance with just a glimmer of hope of actually winning.


It's not like there's any shame in losing to a top 10 HW(which is likely what Brock would face again).

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