OORick
Intellectual Savior of the Masses 
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OOfficial Discussion: TNA 2016
New thread for the new year!
And TNA is getting a new network for the New Year, PopTV. It's actually a step up from Destination America: Pop is available in about 30 million
more households than DA.
TNA's been a wacky mess for a long time, but when they debut this Tuesday night, it's yet another chance for a reset button. They vacated
their world title back in October, ditched original plans to fix that, and pulled a giant 3-month World Series of Whatever out of their ass (including
airing footage of matches that were taped before they invented said series, but which were retconned into the standings; I believe this was so
sloppily handled that they had to keep showing Bubba Dudley as having scored points, long after he was back on WWE TV). Tuesday it all comes to a
head, with the Final Four:
Bobby Lashley vs. Ethan Carter III
Matt Hardy vs. Eric Young
The winners of those two matches then face off later in the night.
Adding more spice to the live event, TNA is hyping the debut of someone/something called "The Miracle." Whee?
Rick
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GodEatGod
Man of a Thousand Holds  
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So I watched Impact for the first time in months, thinking "Hey, new network, new year, maybe they'll go in a new direction, try to shake
things up".
Yeah, no, they still suck.
Matt Bennett got a great entrance, looked like a big deal and, of course, Maria is smoking hot. But...he just blathered on for a long time without
really saying anything. Just "Look I'm a big deal. I will say arrogant things now."
Beer Money reunion is nice, but reeks of desperation. Both guys, frankly, should be the ones main eventing and not playing midcard nostalgia act
bingo.
The Knockouts were not good and oh great, it's Kong vs. Gail for the nine millionth time.
And the tournament finals themselves. Just plodding, dull, paint by numbers matches with Josh going on in full Schiavone hyperbole mode. The main
event was so awkward, with both guys clearly pretty gassed and yet the match just...refused...to...end as they try to make it epic and just succeed in
showing how obvious spot-calling can become when you're fucking exhausted. Nice touch of Matt shoving away his wife and newborn son at the end,
too. Oh, EC3 won, btw, which means that the entire tournament and the last four months of TNA programming were literally without a point. I mean,
maybe they're turning Matt heel, since EC3 beat him fair and square and he ran off crying like a spoiled baby, but who cares? Honestly, who the
fuck cares?
I don't. I'm done again. Call me when they go to their next network.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Did Sasquatch make a successful transition to the new channel?
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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the goon
Sister Act
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I came across the last five minutes of Impact tonight by complete accident (I had no idea it had moved to Tuesdays) and the whole thing just looked
really cheap. The video quality was bad, the announcing sounded amateurish, the crowd seemed small and quiet, and the whole thing just felt like I was
watching a local indy promotion on public access TV or something.
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Originally posted by GodEatGod
Oh, EC3 won, btw, which means that the entire tournament and the last four months of TNA programming were literally without a point.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You have EC3 drop the title at Bound For Glory, then have it vacated for three months and have a big tournament,
all so that you can crown your brand new world champion...EC3. That's just such a TNA move.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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These are the actual notes that I took during the show:
The opening crawl involves what appears to be Jeff Hardy crashing back-first onto steel steps. Not a good start.
"We chose POP for many reasons. All of them are a version of the phrase 'Nobody else wanted us.'"
Matt Hardy is someone who, after losing cleanly to EC3 in his own match, managed to force his way into the match between EC3 and Galloway, hit his
finisher on Galloway and had his brother count the pin. He is the last guy that should be calling someone out for saying they got robbed.
I thought Angle had left TNA. Nonetheless, I have no interest in seeing Angle in the ring anymore, but I'll admit that I could see him and
Galloway having a good match together.
Um, why did EY just put Matt back in the ring if he was about to advance via a countout victory that he was wanting?
Bram, a man who beat a woman and held her against her will, is still employed.
Storm, you just burned a bridge with the biggest wrestling company in the world in order to return to a company that has dropped the ball with you
over and over again. Hope it was worth it. Roode also looked absolutely miserable, I felt sorry for the guy.
Jade is quite possibly the most talented Knockout on the roster. I hope she gets a shot in NXT at some point, I enjoy watching her in the ring.
"Bye, Felicia."-Josh Matthews. What else needs to be said?
Maria's ass is proof that miracles exist. And Bennett looks like he raided the wardrobe of Armando Alejandro Estrada.
"I am your wrestling Jesus." Somehow, I doubt that one would�ve gone over well on Destination America.
"We are not going to have any commercial interruptions during our main-event match. But before we start, here's a 10-minute preview of Schitt�s
Creek."
Matt Hardy, the heroic babyface, loses cleanly again to EC3, and then appears to throw a tantrum while leaving up the ramp in defeat. The logical move
here would be to turn him heel, seeing how Matt's basically been whining like one, and to face off against Drew Galloway, the man who he himself
initially screwed in the first place. Seeing how its TNA, though, I have no idea where they�re going.
[Edited on 1-6-2016 by anglefan85]
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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nOOb
The Man 
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Maybe now that James Storm is an ex-WWE guy he'll get a bunch of World Title runs. Also hopefully WWE hurries up and buys them out for their
library soon seeing as how almost all the good parts of TNA are/were under WWE contract of some sort.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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The TV ratings are in for Impact on their new channel.
On POP, IMPACT WRESTLING was at 0.08/255K. That's lower than their Destination America debut, and POP is on more cable providers.
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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DevilSoprano
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The show wasn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be. It definitely has a fair share of faults and I don't see a lot of room for
growth, but it wasn't all that offensive either. There's talent on the roster, that's for sure.
And Storm didn't burn any bridges. WWE has already commented somewhere that they'd welcome him back, but TNA supposedly offered a 2-year
guarantee for almost double or triple what he was making on a pay per appearance basis in NXT.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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While I'm sure that Rebel could win almost any Golden Ass contest she was entered in she's still a piss-poor replacement for what Taryn
Terrell, or even Brooke Assmacher, brought to the game. I just don't see the point to watching TNA at all except for doing a lot of MST3K-style
ripping on the entire show because belittling them is about the only legitimate entertainment value to be derived from them anymore. That
they're inevitably, and usually immediately, going to do the dumbest and most self-damaging thing possible is the only certainty with them
anymore. It's like what Conky the puppet said about why he kept giving shit to Ricky on Trailer Park Boys "I can't help it Julian,
he's just so STUPID!".
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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If its true that Storm is still welcomed back to the WWE and is set to make more back in TNA, then it's not as bad that he decided to return.
However, that also raises the question of how the rest of the locker room and the production employees feel about this. Dixie claims that
there's no money, but they're able to pay Storm triple of what he was making with his NXT deal.
[Edited on 1-8-2016 by anglefan85]
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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Larry Horrowitz
rOOkie
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Random thoughts about the pop tv show..
It was "TNA good"
Didnt like them starting off the show with a promo. If they wanna be the alternative to wwe then dont format your show like raw because its gonna show
how youre below them. I think they should have started the show with a big match. Or at least have the 4 finalists in the ring fighting and play up
how important the whc is for them. You can do the dixie promo after that and still have a similar result.
I like jesse godderz and his "the man" gimmck. Makes me laugh.
Maria should only wear the gear she wore in roh. Mike bennett is still mike bennett to me. Lol because he was wearing armando gear. Haha
Cool that beer money reunited and storm said that cult leader storm was garbage
I just dont care about galloway, and his accent is annoying. Its not all scottish accents, just his for some reason. Not really a fan.
Its not 2006, bram.
Matt hardy seemed very over with the crowd.
Marti belle > every other knockout. Kong with the dollhouse should have been a bigger deal in tna. Guess they had to do something drasatic since taryn
terrel found jesus and bounced. I liked her gimmick. Mia Yim is great too. Face beautiful people doesnt work. Rebel looks ridiculous to me. Not a
fan.
Theyve done a good job with ec3
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First 9
Man of a Thousand Holds
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It's the only thing they have going for them but holyhell is EC3 good. He might be the most well rounded non-NXT character on tv right now.
He won the Championship cleanly and rightfully so doesn't appear intimidated by any faces that step up to him(coule be because of his bodyguard,
could not) and he takes offense to a new heel declaring he'll change TNA because in EC3's mind he IS TNA and that was an indirect insult.
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Gobshite
The Great One 
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Angle will face Drew Galloway, Bobby Roode, and Bobby Lashley (in that order) on the TNA UK tour. I'll be there for the last match against
Lashley, so will let you know how it goes!
I have six invites I can crash out for membership to pwtorrents.net - if you want one, U2U me!
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Comcast announced last week that Pop TV, home of Impact Wrestling, is being moved to a premium channel package. Essentially, Pop TV will no longer be
available to all Comcast customers - people will have to go out of their way to pay extra for this premium tier. Obviously, this is not great news for
TNA as they look to build viewership for Impact Wrestling.
Here's the statement:
�In December 2015 and January 2016 we will be making changes to our channel lineup in select areas. CMT, Spike TV and POP will be moving to different
tiers of service and in some areas RLTV will no longer be carried. We are making these changes to manage overall programming costs and better align
our more popular packages with the most viewed programs. These changes do not affect all areas, so please refer to the grid below to see if your area
will have a tier change for one of these networks.�
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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coxito
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quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
Angle will face Drew Galloway, Bobby Roode, and Bobby Lashley (in that order) on the TNA UK tour. I'll be there for the last match against
Lashley, so will let you know how it goes!
It looks like reports are showing the Lashley match is off. It may just be an omission but they are saying Galloway and then Roode for the last 2.
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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A 40-year-old Matt Hardy just handed EC3 his first singles win and is now TNA champ. Something that should have been given to an up-and-coming talent
was just given to a guy who's gone on the record as saying that he wants to end his career in the WWE. Matt Hardy is now heel, and EC3, who was
arguably the hottest heel in wrestling just turned babyface.
The only real saving grace is that EC3 can still hold claim to never being pinned or submitted, but still.
[Edited on 1-20-2016 by anglefan85]
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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GodEatGod
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Ugh. Just fucking ugh. I didn't see it but UGH.
I have no idea how you make EC3 a face. His character doesn't really have any redeeming qualities - I'm not saying he doesn't have
the potential to play a face character, I just think it wouldn't in any way be the same character. It's like the Million Dollar Man - Ted
Dibiase was a great wrestler and could be a good babyface, but you wouldn't turn the Million Dollar Man character face. Who's gonna cheer
that guy?
Matt Hardy heel turn is a good thing, just because he has an inherently repugnant quality or has at least developed that in recent years. But EC3 a
face, when he's been your best heel for over a year? I just don't buy it.
Plus, we all know it's meant to lead to Hardy vs. Hardy and that's just never been a good fit for whatever reason.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Gobshite
The Great One
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Don't worry, Jeff Hardy can't travel to the UK, so I'm sure they'll do the annual writing him off TV angle in the next week or
two, then you have at least 4-6 weeks of Matt Hardy vs Not Jeff Hardy, at least as far as in ring stuff goes. By that point I'm sure TNA will
have got bored again and taken the title off Matt.
By the time they tape all 3 UK shows, they'll have had the end of the title tournament, a world title change, a feast or fired match, lockdown,
a monsters ball match, and a king of the mountain match (they match types are advertised for UK tapings, but no participants). That's quite a
load to blow in your first three months or so on a new TV channel - but where do they go from there?
I have six invites I can crash out for membership to pwtorrents.net - if you want one, U2U me!
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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No excuse for this kind of thing at all. No excuse period. TNA's pretty much the wrestling promotion equivalent to Bill Pullman's moron
character from Ruthless People. Paraphrasing what the one cop in that movie said "this could be the stupidest wrestling company that ever existed.
Maybe we should shoot them". Just fucking die already, dickheads. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Its a shame, really, because when you think about it, it was actually a really well-done angle. You have a guy who has finally had enough of losing
the big match, giving up his morals and becomes an absolute sociopath in order to get what he wants.
Unfortunately, the guy who he did this hasn't been cheating to beat him. He's beaten him cleanly, including in a ladder match that Matt
chose because it's his specialty match. EC3's also someone with a character that just isn't believable as a babyface. He's
treated everyone like absolute shit, including his own aunt.
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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the goon
Sister Act
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EC3 drops the title to Matt Hardy at Bound For Glory, Matt is promptly stripped of the title two days later, there's a three-month long
tournament to crown a new TNA champion, EC3 wins back the title, EC3 drops the title to Matt Hardy two weeks later, and TNA's top heel is now a
face and Matt Hardy is a two-time TNA champion.
Could it be that we've seen the biggest "that's so TNA" moment in history?
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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They're making the endless series of Russo-esque swerves and turns in the last couple of years at WCW look well-written in comparison. God,
they're just so fucking stupid. All that potential they had for a while before Hogan/Bischoff and this is the crap that they tossed it all away
for.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Larry Horrowitz
rOOkie
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Matt should start referring to Tyrus as his big mf'er
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PB-13
Showstopper
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While watching TNA is akin to visiting a dying relative these days, I try to find bright spots. Happy goofy Crazzy Steve? Ehh. Evil psycho Crazzy
Steve with Abyss as his muscle and Courtney Rush as his Harley Quinn? Works for me.
-PB
RIP My Friend Mark, 1991-2016
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anglefan85
Man of a Thousand Holds
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I saw that as well. I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with that.
The WWE: Where no one wins, unless you like Cena, in which case you are a sad little fanboy who will never get laid, but we are happy to take your
money away-Moosehead Jack
"She is an estrogen molotov cocktail. It'd be in your best interest not to piss her off."- My thoughts on Firewoman
"Kurt Angle is like a living vortex of the surreal. On the off chance he's not doing, saying or thinking crazy things, people connected to him
act crazy by association, caught in the gravitational pull of his insanity."- Ringout from FAN Forums
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