OORick
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OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: RAW (November 23, 2009)
OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to RAW (airing November 23, 2009) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of the
Current Events section for the remainder of the week. In discussing the program, we'd love it if you shared your numerical rating for
the show (from a low of 0.0 to a high of 5.0, in any increment of one-tenth of a point). For full details on the ratings scale and how to join in on
this informal "Battle of the Brands," please be sure to check out the OOfficial
Guidelines for TV Ratings/Discussion Threads.
Tonight on RAW: it's a very special 3-Hour All-Brands Thanksgiving Edition of RAW, which means.... well, ummm, I don't really know
*what* that means, other than maybe RAW is stealing the annual foodfight gimmick away from SD this year... we also know that the Guest Host will be
Jesse "the Body" Ventura, which could end up being anything from awesome to awful depending on how well-prepped he is when they hand him a live mic;
he could also fall smack-dab in the middle as a competent host shilling his new project (in Jesse's case, a new TV show about Conspiracy
Theories).... fall-out from Survivor Series is also assured, as we have another of the new "themed" PPVs coming up in 3-weeks, and that'll no
doubt mean a new mash-up of Cena/DX in the WWE Title picture, while Kofi/Orton ain't going anywhere, either; both will get fancy new
stips/gimmicks in accordance with the TLC PPV name, and voila.... the US Title picture seems to still be focused mostly on The Miz, Jack Swagger, and
maybe Evan Bourne.... Sheamus' next "project" will probably end up being a squash of Jerry Lawler based on last week's events... the
cross-brands aspect should be good for some fun (maybe a one-off Kofi/Punk match, just because they were so good last night, please? Pretty please?),
or at least some kind of address by JeriShow about last night (which might lead us to an angle that illustrates how bad Big Show's aching knee
is/isn't)... and while WWE has not bothered announcing any official matches/segments for tonight, they ARE promising the World Premiere of the
trailer for "The Marine 2" starring Ted DiBiase Jr.... oh my, you don't want to miss that! Do you? Oh, you do.... update this thread if/when
WWE announces stuff later in the afternoon, kids, and remember: a 3-hour show tonight, so it kicks off ONE HOUR EARLY at 8pm (eastern); be
there or be square....
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 11pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
-- Venus Flytrap speaking on The Rick
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Biff_Manly
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| posted on 11-23-2009 at 07:47 PM |
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Does PG TV mean will will or will not be getting a gravy bowl diva's match? I mean, ratings are one thing but tradition is tradition.
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
--SCSA's Fringe on Ice Holiday Spectacular.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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| posted on 11-23-2009 at 09:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
Tonight on RAW: it's a very special 3-Hour All-Brands Thanksgiving Edition of RAW, which means.... well, ummm, I don't really know
*what* that means, other than maybe RAW is stealing the annual foodfight gimmick away from SD this year...
Of course you are assuming that there is some rule stopping two food fights from happening. In fact, I think this falls under the "Teddy Long
Corollary: that anything Raw decides on, he must make two of." I.E. double HitC's, double Triple Threats...and coming soon...double Chris
Master's boobie dances.
Edit...Just in case people don't remember...starts at 8 tonight.
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by S Kid J E T S 48]
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Tevaltski
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Got to say I am actually hyped up for tonight's show. The breakthrough Battle Royal, plus new matches we've never seen. Of course this
is the E, so I feel the taint of false advertising before the night is done
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chewey
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quote:
Originally posted by Tevaltski
Got to say I am actually hyped up for tonight's show. The breakthrough Battle Royal, plus new matches we've never seen. Of course this
is the E, so I feel the taint of false advertising before the night is done
Agreed. I'm really looking forward to Cena-Punk and DX-Hart Dynasty. But I also can't help but hope they don't screw it up.
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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SeanSmythe
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 01:41 AM |
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Im calling it now, Sheamus wins that battle royale.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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chewey
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 01:43 AM |
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Will Randy Orton wisen up tonight to the fact that the only way he can get another title shot is if someone other than Cena has the title... and that
tonight he has a chance of installing one of the Legacy guys as Number One Contender so that they can lay down to the finger poke of doom for him?
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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S Kid J E T S 48
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 01:45 AM |
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Bingo. I believe someone's movie trailer is premiering tonight...
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:08 AM |
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I turned on RAW mid Cena/Punk because... Raw sounded... good?
I'm upset I missed the first hour because... it sounds like... I missed some good stuff?
I'm settling in to watch the rest of the show because... it sounds... appealing?
Am I still watching RAW?
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SeanSmythe
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:12 AM |
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Jesse and Vince announcing plus red bow tie?Instant 5.0
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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budpaul
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:13 AM |
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At the risk of sounding like a goofball fanboy - OMG! Jesse and Vince back at the announce table?! Freaking AWESOME!!!! That's going to bring
back some memories... total old skooooooool!
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by budpaul]
We've all fantasized about Jessica Simpson. Here's mine, "Oh Jessica... Hold your sister, Ashlee - so I can kick her in the throat!"
- Dave Atel
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Chris Is Good517
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:16 AM |
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All of a sudden Jack Swagger's future isn't looking so promising.
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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The Hitcher
Creepy Little Bastard
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chewey
Will Randy Orton wisen up tonight to the fact that the only way he can get another title shot is if someone other than Cena has the title... and that
tonight he has a chance of installing one of the Legacy guys as Number One Contender so that they can lay down to the finger poke of doom for him?
Nope.
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LuckyLopez
Reeks of WCW
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:33 AM |
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Twenty two minutes after I get excited for RAW because it features a Breakthrough Battle Royal featuring non-World Champion/Main Eventers guaranteed
to showcase the young stars of the company and put a new wrestler into the spotlight Randy Orton is allowed into it by beating one of the top guys
I'd love to see get a showcase and suddenly what I was so excited for has become "Are they really going to do Cena vs Orton again? JESUS
FUCKING CHRIST, DIE, YOU TERRIBLE FUCKING COMPANY!"
I am watching RAW after all.
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desjr001
And I am AWESOME
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:33 AM |
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We heading towards another Kofi/Orton showdown tonight or what?
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:34 AM |
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Red Herring to get rid of Kofi, Lucky.
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The Hitcher
Creepy Little Bastard
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Twenty two minutes after I get excited for RAW because it features a Breakthrough Battle Royal featuring non-World Champion/Main Eventers guaranteed
to showcase the young stars of the company and put a new wrestler into the spotlight Randy Orton is allowed into it by beating one of the top guys
I'd love to see get a showcase and suddenly what I was so excited for has become "Are they really going to do Cena vs Orton again? JESUS
FUCKING CHRIST, DIE, YOU TERRIBLE FUCKING COMPANY!"
I am watching RAW after all.
You knew better than to be optimistic, admit it...
I am, however, going to remain vigilant that with the show not over yet this night can't possibly end with the promise of yet more Orton Vs
Cena...
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nobledictator
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:40 AM |
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I am surprised that Swagger isn't going to be in that thing.
Kofi or Orton won't win
I dont' think.... :-) I know it won't be Orton.
MVP maybe?
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Chris Is Good517
The Man
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT, THE GOBBLEDY GOOKER!!!!!
16.0
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
Red Herring to get rid of Kofi, Lucky.
It doesn't even matter. A company that gives you no sane reason whatsoever to trust they'd go with new characters over established main
eventers put together a show that excited maybe the single most cynical fan they have who doesn't even bother to watch RAW anymore because
he's convinced there's no earthly reason to.
To then create the circumstances where you're headed to ORTON VS FUCKING CENA as a result of this? Fuck, WWE. Seriously, go straight to hell,
everyone involved in that decision. Because it doesn't matter if its a red herring or if someone else nabs the win. It really doesn't.
I'll still spend the next 90 minutes worried about Orton winning instead of excited for the open field of exciting possabilities.
Mark Henry could have won the Battle Royal. I have ZERO interest in Henry/Cena and Henry's one of the last guys I want to see get a push. But
that wouldn't matter today, that would matter tomorrow and for the next 3 weeks. I'd STILL be excited right up until 11:10 or whenever it
was clear that was what was happening. What WWE managed to do was totally reverse that. I'm now hating this Battle Royal because it stands ANY
chance of giving us ORTON VS FUCKING CENA and I will until 11:10 or whenever it becomes clear that it was a swerve.
That's just incompetent and pointless. There's not one fucking person on the planet who wants Orton to have a chance at the title shot
and if I'm wrong about that then you can be rest assured that I think you're a tasteless moron whose opinion I don't respect in one
little bit. But WWE created the circumstances for it and there's absolutely NO REASON for you to tell me its a red herring and for me to believe
in that. There's no reason in the world to trust that WWE isn't stupid enough to do ORTON VS FUCKING CENA AGAIN!
They inserted fear into this show when there was no God damn reason to. It doesn't matter where it goes from here. They undermined the story
by creating the real possibility of a totally believable outcome that makes no earthly sense.
I was EXCITED for RAW 45 minutes ago. I haven't been excited for RAW in YEARS. Now? Its RAW.
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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Chris Is Good517
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Lucky, I think you're pretty much failing to comprehend the fact that Maryse is the Gobbledy Gooker, which means that assuming she's
approx. 25 years old she's been under contract to WWE since she was 6!
ETA- Seriously though, I'm not going to be mad unless Orton actually wins the battle royale. Which, with Kofi involved, I'm not
sure he will.
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by Chris Is Good517]
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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desjr001
And I am AWESOME
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Cole has actually been considerably less vintage tonight..much looser yet still keeping on point.
Decent swerve w/ the Gooker, but the crowd goes totally mild for the Maryse reveal. I thought it was gonna be Beth.
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
ETA- Seriously though, I'm not going to be mad unless Orton actually wins the battle royale. Which, with Kofi involved, I'm not
sure he will.
I really do think that heart of my ranting is that its not the outcome that I'm annoyed by. Will I hate Cena/Orton? Sure, but WWE
couldn't be any fucking stupider in my mind than it already is and I can't be any less interested in TLC than I was in Survivor Series,
Bragging Rights, Breaking Point, Summerslam, and whatever the fuck else I didn't bother to watch and barely skimmed the results of.
They fucked with the compelling story of tonight's show, though. And to what end? Its just incompetence and fuck them. This is the sort of
retarded bullshit I expect from the over the top characterizations of WCW, TNA, or Russo booking that swerves itself for no good reason where the
upside is a counter swerve that still doesn't make up for the last 2 hours of stuff that happened between swerves.
EDIT: Or how about we put it this way? RAW was so compelling that it forced me to turn it on, leave the computer, and sit back in my comfy chair to
just enjoy it. Then something happened 20 minutes later that made me give up the comfy chair and care so little about RAW that I started yelling
about the stupidity of it online. That's an amazing turn around the likes of which I haven't seen since the days of a Russo booked
Nitro.
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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S Kid J E T S 48
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| posted on 11-24-2009 at 02:59 AM |
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I had my money on Santino. [edit] As the gooker...
Ah...contributing to a Lucky freakout.
Just like the old days. :: (c) Mick Foley Thumbs Up::
[Edited on 11-24-2009 by S Kid J E T S 48]
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Chris Is Good517
The Man
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Anyone else feel old as hell watching HBK wrestle Bulldog's kid while remembering pretty clearly HBK tearing down the house with Bulldog, which
seems like it can't have been 13-14 years ago already but actually has?
Anyone else think this probably makes Shawn feel really fuckin old?
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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