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Poll: President Trump: How does it end?
Trump is assassinated 3 (0%) -╗
Trump is impeached 10 (0%) -╗
Trump resigns 4 (0%) -╗
Trump lasts all four years, loses 2020 election 7 (0%) -╗
Trump lasts all four years, wins 2020 election 3 (0%) -╗
Trump evolves, becomes dictator for foreseeable future 2 (0%) -╗
mabey aka other 2 (0%) -╗
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posted on 2-3-2017 at 10:03 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Signs becoming more clear of a classic top-down "el presidente" coup d'etat in progress by Trump?

1) Has part of the US military already been corrupted?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/military-convoy-trump-flag-navy-seals

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A convoy of military vehicles flying a Trump flag last weekend in Kentucky belonged to a Naval Special Warfare unit, according to multiple reports.

On Sunday, the group IndivisibleKY posted video online of a string of heavily armored military vehicles -- one sporting a ´┐ŻTrump´┐Ż flag -- on the I-65 highway near Louisville.

"The convoy were service members assigned to an East Coast-based Naval Special Warfare unit driving vehicles while transiting between two training locations," Lt. Jacqui Maxwell, a spokesperson for Naval Special Warfare Group 2, told ABC News Wednesday night.

ABC News noted that Naval Special Warfare unit is the official term used for Navy SEAL units.

Maxwell told the USA Today Thursday that such a showing was ´┐Żunauthorized."

´┐ŻYes, it was inappropriate,´┐Ż Maxwell told the publication. ´┐ŻIt was unauthorized.´┐Ż


2) Wipe out of State Dept senior staff, sidelining of the JCS on the NSC, creation of parallel offices under the control of Steve Bannon - just what the fuck is happening here?

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/is-the-us-in-the-middle-of-a-coup/news-story/ab0ece5c5b27b004b0b203fcce435a92

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IS WHAT we´┐Żre witnessing in the US a slow-motion downhill slide into a coup?

A fascinating and scary article has been doing the rounds in recent days, which suggests that Donald Trump´┐Żs ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries was an attempt to see how far he can push his power, as the first step to mounting an all-out coup.

A Google engineer named Yonatan Zunger has suggested that the way the White House has repeatedly gone around long standing conventions shows it is testing to see whether a coup is possible.

One man´┐Żs coup is another man´┐Żs ´┐Żstrong leadership´┐Ż. But what Zunger is talking about is Mr Trump´┐Żs inner circle grabbing power in a similar way that Vladimir Putin has done in Russia, where he exercises power unchallenged by any other body.

Sure, he still has a court system and a legislative body, but they are largely irrelevant, and Mr Putin would ignore them if they ever opposed him.

Zunger´┐Żs point is that last weekend the White House and Department of Homeland Security happily ignored court orders related to the Muslim ban, and there was no real consequence to it.
If Mr Trump´┐Żs inner circle gets good at going around the conventional processes, the result is essentially coup-like: Congress and the Supreme Court can try to oppose him all it likes, but if he´┐Żs willing to just keep going around the normal processes, there is not a lot they can do.

This is normally accompanied by a Kleptocratic approach to the nation´┐Żs finances. Kleptocracy is ´┐Żrule by thieves´┐Ż. The argument that Zunger presents is that Mr Trump´┐Żs refusal to divest himself of assets shows a proclivity to use the office to enrich himself and his family.

But coup or not, Zunger has identified some tendencies in Mr Trump´┐Żs leadership style are worth exploring.






You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 2-3-2017 at 11:04 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I've seen the coup rumors/conspiracy theories over on Reddit and would laugh at them if they weren't so damn plausible and scary. And since it seems there's zero anyone can do to stop Trump and his cohorts, we'd all just have to bend over and take it.
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posted on 2-4-2017 at 12:52 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Well, it gets even funnier. They'll be coming for your bank account long before they come to napalm your town. Yes, because the bankers have proven themselves to be so trustworthy so many times before. Goodbye Dodd-Frank and fiduciary suitability laws, and probably every other Obama-era financial sector regulation too:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/03/trump-just-declared-open-season-on-suckers.html

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Making it easier for banks to screw the public and financial advisors to screw their clients aren´┐Żt the promises that filled Trump rallies with truck-driving, g-droppin´┐Ż white folk from the middle of the country. But, then again, Trump´┐Żs words and actions have always been divergent, and his voters have always been willing to buy Trump´┐Żs man-of-the-people snake oil over facing his con-man reality.

Every time regulators have given them a chance, bankers and financial institutions have proven they´┐Żre not to be trusted to operate in the interest of the economy as a whole without sensible oversight. Why would this time be different?


The recession Wall Street triggered with their crooked mortgages in 2007 didn't just affect the US, it fucked over the whole world. And they just re-sowed the seeds so it can happen all over again. Justice would be if only people who voted for Trump lost every single penny but, in a crooked system that operates by a cascade effect, it unfortunately just doesn't work that way. Expect everyone except the authors of the disaster to get fully fucking hosed to death again.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 2-4-2017 at 05:34 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
When I was reading about the Dodd Frank stuff today I figuratively vomited. I get that Trump and his Nazi bros are going to do whatever they can to make allll the profits but how in the fuck are these morons actually still buying into this? Haven't seen merc and Williams around lately, then again, they probably won't be affected so why would they care? It's the republican way.
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You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 2-14-2017 at 03:39 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Odds have dropped to 11/10

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bookmakers-slashed-odds-donald-trump-182703756.html





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posted on 2-14-2017 at 11:09 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Well, for an impeachment, Republicans have to get on board, and the cabinet confirmations show they aren't. Aside from the usual suspects like John McCain, they're staying pretty silent.
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posted on 2-14-2017 at 11:27 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This Michael Flynn/Russia stuff is blowing up right now. If it gains legs and leads to Trump himself, then the shit could hit the fan. I still wouldn't take the bet since the GOP would be highly unlikely to impeach one of their own. On the other hands, Americans have no love for Putin or Russia, so if opinion polls go south, well...

Think about this though....if Trump is impeached and removed from office, we'd get Mike Pence as the new POTUS. This is a guy who was probably going to lose re-election as governor in his own state now in charge of the whole country. Talk about failing upwards.





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posted on 2-14-2017 at 11:29 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Gotta save the impeachment attempt for something so huge, important, and dangerous that even the fucking GOP can't turn their backs on it. Everything so far in the White House has been entertaining as fuck but it's still too piddly to take a shot for impeachment at. Can't waste the opportunity on something as ridiculous as what the GOP tried to do to Bill Clinton.

Give it time. Trump can't contain his true impulses. Eventually he'll be overwhelmed by his lifelong instincts to be a ratfuck little grifter with delusions of grandeur. He'll make the leap at something so criminal even the GOP has to cave in and say it's illegal. Then he can be safely gassed like a box full of cats down at the PETA all-kill animal shelter.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 2-15-2017 at 04:34 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Gotta save the impeachment attempt for something so huge, important, and dangerous that even the fucking GOP can't turn their backs on it. Everything so far in the White House has been entertaining as fuck but it's still too piddly to take a shot for impeachment at.
Are we getting warmer?





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posted on 2-15-2017 at 04:40 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
You betcha.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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Have we reached the point where I can shitpost GetYourPopcornReady.Gifs?
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posted on 2-15-2017 at 01:59 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Oh, God. This just gets better and better worse and worse.






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posted on 2-15-2017 at 06:46 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The most dangerous part is that it's confirmed there's basically a ideological cabal consisting of Trump/Bannon/Miller operating inside the White House that has no compunction about bypassing anyone else in intelligence and the military. Flynn was obviously part of that group and became the fall guy. There's reports that Pence was left out of the loop altogether and that he only found out that Flynn had lied to him about his connections to the Russians through reading the news. If the VP can be negated so blatantly then that means the Secretaries of State and Defense most likely have been too. The military and intelligence departments that are tasked with defending the United States, and essentially the entire western world, have basically been kneecapped by a shadow government operating inside the presidential administration.

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You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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