OORick
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OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (October 21, 2019)
Tonight on RAW: it's the first "business as usual" show in 3 weeks, after much stunt casting and gimmickry.... thing is, WWE
doesn't have much to show for the supposedly "huge" shows (at least, not on RAW), so turning the dial down on effort doesn't seem like a
good idea...
Then again, maybe it's a great idea, and without Stable Genius Vince McMahon overthinking everything at every stage, RAW will turn out to be --
you know? -- just a good ol' simple rasslin' show...
As of this writing, only two matches are officially on the docket, and only one really intrigues anyone.... the Street Profits make their main roster
in-ring debut.... they'll be joined by a Mystery Partner to face The Club (Styles/Anderson/Gallows).... so uhhh yadda yadda yadda Edge something
something, anyone?.... probably not, so it's a partner who will immediately slot in as #1 Contender to the US Title; Cedric has burned his
chances, but Aleister Black would be a great choice for a fresh challenger...
The other is Andrade [redacted] [redacted] taking on Sin Cara for reasons....
Two other main storylines featured in WWE's hype:
Now that "Team Hogan" is complete for Saudi Arabia (Capt. Reigns, Richochet, Rusev, Ali, Gable), Flair will reveal his final team member (which
currently has Capt. Orton, Lashley, Corbin, Nakamura)... Orton, Lashley, Ricochet, and Rusev are all RAW guys who will be available tonight to provide
the background/fodder for said revelation.... my money's on Drew McIntyre...
And WWEU Champ Seth Rollins has some splainin' to do, after he "burned it down" last week.... in a positively fucktarded ending to RAW, Seth
set fire to Bray Wyatt's Funhouse, and the reaction from fans ran the gamut from "that's lame" to "oh heel turn for Rollins,
right?"... neither of those was WWE's desired reaction (they thought it'd make Seth look like a bad ass, and instead it was just HiaC
redux, where he also tried to get "extreme" and mostly just came off like a bit of a drama queen), and so tonight they try to right the ship....
Seth defending his title against SD's Bray Wyatt in Saudi Arabia is a strangely cross-brand issue, and I still feel like Bray works better on
RAW (with Heyman, and without clueless FOX people trying to figure out the Fiend), so we'll see how that goes....
Everything else is a general reset now that the rosters are set in stone.... in particular, RAW Women's Champ Becky Lynch is without an obvious
challenger, now that Charlotte seems comfy as a fellow babyface; there is talk of Asuka "double dipping" as a singles, even as she continues
defending the women's tag titles with Kairi, and certainly the way Becky cut her promo 2 weeks ago hinted as an extended program vs. Asuka,
which I would most certainly enjoy.... meantime, it could even evolve into a situation where Asuka and Kairi do have tag matches against Becky and
Charlotte (where the prickly heat between the two frenemies could eventually build to one of them turning heel)... new RAW tag champs are the Viking
Warriors, and short of a new team emerging out of nowhere (like Ziggler/Roode), you gotta think either (1) they are just waiting for the "Best in the
World" Tag Team Turmoil to elevate someone or (2) it'll be Anderson & Gallows....
Also, Kevin Owens is on RAW, but has not actually been seen anywhere since 3 weeks ago when he beat Shane McMahon on the FOX debut of SD, which is....
odd. More KO = Good, so make it so, WWE.....
That is all. End communication.
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome.
So discuss, debate, and rate!
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Il Palazzo
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I think Ye Olde Twittere featured a thing from Montez Ford referring to their match tonight and having friends in "high" places, so Alexander seems
like a solid pick for their mystery partner. Or Ricochet if he's not tied up elsewhere. Or basically anyone that is sufficiently flippy. Or take
the comment in a different way and we get a surprised RVD return!
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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janerd75
The Man 
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 12:06 AM |
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Oh Christ they're sending Ric out there on his own with a live mic?! 
That was a darn fine NXT. - Imam DooKi Broiler Jerzistani El Ballenhoopi
I’ll give AEW credit ... while they lack in woman’s wrestlers they really do have the market cornered on add nothing but be super hot arm candy valets
these days. - Also OOur Jerzoid Imam (PBUH)
Catch-As-Catch-Can: The Non-Specific Wrestling Thread
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Il Palazzo
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Welcome back, Drew! Just a shame you're back as a part of this mess.
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni 
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 12:12 AM |
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Huh. Guess by default that any show that starts with a boost for Blood Money in Old Araby is gonna suck.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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I came into this match a couple minutes late, but did one of these guys get concussed early on or something? This is playing out a lot more awkwardly
than I would expect from these two.
Maybe it's just residual disorientation from being so close to Ric Flair.
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janerd75
The Man
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 12:36 AM |
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I counted at least 3-4 times Ricky Shea could have, should have, and/or probably did dislocate/break his shoulder and/or hip, sustain no less than 2
concussions, and break his neck causing partial paralysis at least once.
That was a darn fine NXT. - Imam DooKi Broiler Jerzistani El Ballenhoopi
I’ll give AEW credit ... while they lack in woman’s wrestlers they really do have the market cornered on add nothing but be super hot arm candy valets
these days. - Also OOur Jerzoid Imam (PBUH)
Catch-As-Catch-Can: The Non-Specific Wrestling Thread
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 12:39 AM |
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An Alabama Slam into the ring steps seems kind of unsporting and un-necessarily mean spirited, Drew.
Oh yay, they're dragging Lawler into the cuckoldry storyline to provide some brain-dead questioning. Hurrah!
Hey bitches! Screw ALL of you! - heel Bayley, Oct 11 2019
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Il Palazzo
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Dio quoting Castlevania II, this is now the greatest of Raws.
Edit: Horrible, horrible Rusev/Lana/Lashley crap next with Lawler thrown in for good measure, this is now..... well, this is now basically just a
regular Raw again.
Edit II: This segment, and all future segments related to this angle, deserve the crowd to just generate one giant continuous WHAT that lasts as long
as the segment.
[Edited on 10-22-2019 by Il Palazzo]
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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janerd75
The Man
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 01:08 AM |
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Poor RuRu in the ring be like...
If I 'member my Morse code correctly, I think he's blinking out, "A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB!"
Also, RuRu looks like Freddie Mercury got hit by some Gamma radiation in a lab accident gone wrong.
Also2, we couldn't just have Aiden and Rusev Day back huh Vince?  
That was a darn fine NXT. - Imam DooKi Broiler Jerzistani El Ballenhoopi
I’ll give AEW credit ... while they lack in woman’s wrestlers they really do have the market cornered on add nothing but be super hot arm candy valets
these days. - Also OOur Jerzoid Imam (PBUH)
Catch-As-Catch-Can: The Non-Specific Wrestling Thread
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Il Palazzo
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Finding out why Rollins did something super obvious would be entertaining if there was a completely out there reasoning instead of
"somethingsomething Burn It Down somethingsomething Bray always has his shit set on fire." On the plus side, maybe the segment will suddenly end
with a ref stops it out of nowhere.
Edit II: Mothers love the Street Profits more, therefore their surprise partner is Judy Bagwell.
Edit III: Hey, I remember that title! Also, Truth was SO CLOSE to a solid Simpsons joke. So close.
Edit IV: I was all OH HEY RYDER AND HAWKINS. And then remembered the Viking Raiders had come out first. Maybe this will still be a match that lasts
longer than five minutes?
[Edited on 10-22-2019 by Il Palazzo]
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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G-Spot
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 01:58 AM |
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That Ru-Lash-Lana segment would have been better as a Dinner for 3 plug!
"G-Spot rocks the g-spot!!!
**Ghandi (Clone High)**
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DKBroiler
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 02:00 AM |
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It’s almost like using Ricochet, Black and Andrade improves the show. Huh ... who knew?
Reigning, Defending, Undisputed, 0 Time Award Winner
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Il Palazzo
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 02:06 AM |
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I like this trend of outsiders showing up and throwing shite punches. It really adds flavor to the experience.
Edit: I feel bad for Carrillo. I haven't seen any of his prior matches, but it sounded like he was solid? And yet here he is, getting his first
Raw match against Rollins, which on paper sounds like a good start. Except for the continued stink from all of the recent "creative" decisions with
the Rollins/Wyatt stuff.
[Edited on 10-22-2019 by Il Palazzo]
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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Paddlefoot
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 02:29 AM |
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The only way Carrillo could be better was if his first name was Royberto. And he came with a wacky East Indian sidekick. And had a wild obsession
with a loser-days Becky Lynch. 
Hey bitches! Screw ALL of you! - heel Bayley, Oct 11 2019
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williamssl
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I swear if you just summoned him.....I will find you. I will hunt you.
Don't Mess With Texas
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Il Palazzo
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Well, that makes some sense.
Oh, I love legitimate theatre.
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DKBroiler
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 03:19 AM |
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That was a solid night of professional wrestling if I conveniently forget about Rusev. Eh, whatever. The Street Profits are fantastic.
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OORick
Monkey on a Rock
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 03:21 AM |
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Actually a very nice show, I thought.
Good pacing, good action, common sense nudging on stories.... the stuff of sustainable episodic TV.
I especially appreciated that Cain showed up and did stuff (necessary to set him up as a more regular performer down the line), and that the precursor
for it involved Shelton cutting a pretty great promo setting up his future role as a Lesnar/Heyman-surrogate.
I'll even be generous and call the "obvious punt" of the "Seth burned it down" story an "artistic win," instead. As insultingly,
eye-rollingly dumb as the end of last week's RAW was, Seth just bailed on the interview in which he was supposed to "splain himself" to invent
a whole better thing with Humberto "the Dragon" Steambrillo (who could not stay a heel if he wanted to).... and then, 10 minutes after that match,
they just casually revealed that the Funhouse is already rebuilt (it is the Ramblin' Rabbit of domiciles!), and it will return on Friday's
SD. PRETEND LAST WEEK DIDN'T HAPPEN~!!!
I will say that the main event was dangerously close to "milking the he-goat" territory. You just shouldn't over-hype something and then
deliver something most fans could guess at. In this case, by the time the main event went on and they turned the Mystery Partner into a whole big
deal, the math was basically down to 3 things: (1 & 2) Kevin Owens or Samoa Joe, because of the "hates AJ Styles as much as we do" mention or (3)
Edge, because he's the only giant surprise bullet WWE has available at this point.
KO is good, though. Probably not big enough to move the needle with the casual type fan. Hell, DEFINITELY not big enough to do that. But plenty to
make me happy to end the show, which isn't nothing.
Least involvement of the women's roster in, ummm, ever, amirite? I am pretty sure I'm right, unless you count Lana. Which you
shouldn't, given current storylines. Ahhhhhhhh, Saudi Arabia, the totally progressive gift that keeps on telling you it is giving but is still
actually a horrible repressive place where you don't matter unless you are a rich dude!!!!! Be a star!
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DKBroiler
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Yeah ... I was just wondering if all the woman got a vacation. Not a big deal. I’m kind of enjoying each show these days not forcing everyone onto
each episode.
I also like the night of “showcase” matches where we all knew who would win but the match ups were fresh and a lot of guys “won” in defeat. Good show.
Less is more.
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
I swear if you just summoned him.....I will find you. I will hunt you.
meh heh heh heh heh 
Hey bitches! Screw ALL of you! - heel Bayley, Oct 11 2019
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by Il Palazzo
Dio quoting Castlevania II, this is now the greatest of Raws.
Ha, I thought I was going to be the only one to catch that reference.
And call me crazy, but I think that if they continue to push Aleister Black properly, he could be a potential Rumble winner in January. I even started
to get way ahead of myself while watching tonight and was fantasy booking Seth Rollins turning heel and Rollins/Black being the Universal title match
at WrestleMania next year (which of course has about a .01% chance of happening I'm sure).
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DKBroiler
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
quote:
Originally posted by Il Palazzo
Dio quoting Castlevania II, this is now the greatest of Raws.
Ha, I thought I was going to be the only one to catch that reference.
And call me crazy, but I think that if they continue to push Aleister Black properly, he could be a potential Rumble winner in January. I even started
to get way ahead of myself while watching tonight and was fantasy booking Seth Rollins turning heel and Rollins/Black being the Universal title match
at WrestleMania next year (which of course has about a .01% chance of happening I'm sure).
Kofi is winning the Royal Rumble. It is written.
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CVD39
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| posted on 10-22-2019 at 08:12 AM |
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I knew I recognized that quote from Dio.
Fun episode, just wish that Rusev/Lesley shit would go away, though.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
The only way Carrillo could be better was if his first name was Royberto. And he came with a wacky East Indian sidekick. And had a wild obsession
with a loser-days Becky Lynch.
I was only half paying attention at one point when the commentators said he'd be facing Seth Rollins later, and I heard his name as "Alberto
Del Rio," which was very confusing.
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