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posted on 9-30-2019 at 11:11 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (September 30, 2019)

Tonight on RAW: we begin a huge week for the domestic wrestling industry, in general, and a transformative 15-day span for WWE's two flagship brands, specifically...

RAW is hyped as a "season premiere," which on its face is stupid, because wrestling doesn't have seasons.... but it serves as an excuse for a make-over and a bit of stunt-casting, so let's all agree to shut up and just enjoy it for what it is, OK?

SD's ginormous debut on FOX is on Friday, and the Hell in a Cell PPV is on Sunday.... those will get the lion's share of the hype, I'm sure, but whatever happens over the weekend only scratches the surface, because a week from Friday, WWE will hold a Final Draftening, which is supposed to lock in all talent to one brand (at least through WrestleMania), and which will be a pretty hard reset on most storylines....

Here's what WWE is already promising tonight:

  • An appearance by Brock Lesnar, no doubt in service of Friday's Kofi/Brock WWE Title Match
  • Seth Rollins defending the WWEU Title against Rey Mysterio, with implications for HiaC, where Bray Wyatt is already the #1 Contender.... it is NOT out of the realm of possibility to hotshot the title onto Rey as a way to get it onto Bray without Seth losing a match
  • AJ Styles defending the US Title against Cedric Alexander, hopefully as a make-good for the craptacular 3 minute pre-show match they had 2 weeks ago
  • Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan will be Miz's guests on MizTV, with no apparent reason... best I can come up with is Dolph Ziggler reviving his zombie feud with Miz (which itself was based on Miz cahooting with another washed-up old-timer, Goldberg) to shit on the legends... add Dolph's tag title partner Bobby Roode to the mix to make it an evil 3-on-1 beatdown or something, I dunno?
  • Alexa Bliss vs. Sasha Banks in a match that not only tells the tale of the ongoing Bliss/Cross vs. Boss & Hug tag title feud, but which is almost certain to spill over to include the pair of women's title feud (Banks vs. Becky on RAW, Bayley vs. Charlotte on SD), as major sorting-out is needed in terms of those two titles before the Redraftening (Becky is already a huge part of FOX's SD advertising)
  • The aforementioned Dolph/Roode will be defending the RAW tag titles against Heavy Machinery that doesn't serve any apparent purpose, as the Viking Raiders seem set as the champs' true next challengers


Wyatt figures to be central to tonight's proceedings.... and while the Rollins/Rey title match adds some complexity, Bray can still keep busy by temporarily addressing Braun Strowman... last week, The Fiend seemed to protect Rollins by attacking only Strowman, and as a result, Braun got a DQ win over Rollins.... lots of material to delve into, there....

Other stuff: as part of the make-over, we're not only getting new music/pyro/graphics/etc, we're also getting an all new announce team with only Jerry Lawler being a particularly familiar voice, so that should be interesting.... WWE is making a point of deepening their roster(s), since they will try to enforce a hard split between RAW and SD, which is why you'll continue to see idle stars return (such as Rusev and Harper) and some free agents snapped up (such as Johnny Morrison); expect more of this in coming weeks.... presumably, King Boring Carbon still has business with the woefully underrated Chad Gable, now that Gable holds a win over him (if I were Gable, I'd refuse the challenge and demand to face someone who isn't a giant load)....

Buckle up, OO Nation, and let's give it our whole ass these next two weeks before we decide to give up on wrestling's next Golden Era! End Communication.

The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!

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posted on 9-30-2019 at 11:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlor... um ... King. All hail King Corbin!

Ok, that’s a bit much but the guy has improved.





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:02 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
In honour of the season premiere the fans should boo the new announce team as vigourously as they booed the one-time only team-up of Scott Hudson and Arn Anderson during the WCW invasion.





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Uhhhh, those are interesting wrasslin' tights Rey...

ETA: Ah, I see. Thought it was an injury out... OR IS IT?!?!

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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:05 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
So when does someone get to do a sweet skateboard trick off that new RAM entrance area?

Edit: People have been making some terrible decisions lately when Lesnar's been in the ring with them. I figure the whole "Lesnar will probably attack you at some point" thing has been proven true more often than not.

[Edited on 10-1-2019 by Il Palazzo]





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:07 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Now beat up *his annoying kid too, Breck!

* actually Eddie Guerrero's kid BTW


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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:10 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Forget a wall. T-Dawg just needs to hire Bork to patrol the border.

These racially tinged jokes and more, tonight on the season premiere of Janny™!





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:12 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
But would Lesnar be as good as JBL was at defending the border?





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:17 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
TIL Dom inherited the ability to be human lawn dart gene.

Also....

How does not one baby face come out to help a kid from being beaten up? Like Zach Ryder couldn’t come out and take an F5?

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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:23 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Now That's What I Call Cultural Appropriation, Vol. BORK.



BFG, would you run to the ring whens't Berzerk Lester was out there wilding and tossing Señor y Señor, Jr. hither and thither?





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posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I would not. But former OOWF champ Canadian Dragon would!

Also, Becky just made Renee sound like Heenan.

And yeah!!! Jobbing out a tag champ. Like you couldn’t dust off Dana Brooke or one of the IIcOOnics? To do the job?

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Originally posted by OORick
  • Seth Rollins defending the WWEU Title against Rey Mysterio, with implications for HiaC, where Bray Wyatt is already the #1 Contender.... it is NOT out of the realm of possibility to hotshot the title onto Rey as a way to get it onto Bray without Seth losing a match


  • Rick, normally I'm not one to question you ... but how is Rey supposed to win the title without Seth losing a match? Are you instead suggesting tonight's match will end in some sort of Fiend-involved double DQ/no contest so Rey gets added to the HiaC match, making it a triple threat where Bray can pin Rey to win Seth's title?

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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:38 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    Hell yeah, Hogan's totally getting that title shot.





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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 12:39 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    The thing that was in my brain, but apparently didn't make it to my fingers involved Bray's newfound habit of "helping" Seth, but not actually helping. Basically, Bray cherrypicks Rey as his victim to "save" Seth from a heating, setting up a longer burn story.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by OORick
    The thing that was in my brain, but apparently didn't make it to my fingers involved Bray's newfound habit of "helping" Seth, but not actually helping. Basically, Bray cherrypicks Rey as his victim to "save" Seth from a heating, setting up a longer burn story.


    Ah, OK. It's a moot point now anyways.

    So Brock is beating Rollins tonight and Kofi on Friday to unify the titles again?

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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 01:08 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    Goddamn it, Bray Wyatt, where are you to euthanize this segment?
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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 01:08 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    I second the idea of "one more match." It would be glorious. Troll 2 glorious. YA CAN'T PISS ON HOSPITALITY, BROTHER. WOOOOOOOO.

    Edit: Okay, the second Miz brought up a match at Tribute to the Troops: Tasteless Edition, I legit thought we'd be getting Hogan vs. Flair and figured "yeah, sounds about right." I guess this makes about as much sense.

    [Edited on 10-1-2019 by Il Palazzo]





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    Did they tell Flair he was going out there a half-hour after they just woke him up during his blood recycling appointment?





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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 01:13 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    I'm just as interested in how Jimmy Hart found a way to stop aging. I'd say it's amazing how he's older than Flair and yet looks better, but I suppose that's what happens when you ride in too many limousines and fly in too many jets. Also, all that OTHER stuff.





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    Yeah, I'm trying to figure out whether this segment as a whole is awful, or whether it would be perfectly tolerable if Ric Flair weren't drunk off his ass.
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    Good time for Brock and Bray to team up and eat some old people.





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    Apparently they just decided to slowly send a bunch of people out instead. Which I guess is probably setting up some team building for SaudiMania.





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    posted on 10-1-2019 at 01:19 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
    Face Rusev getting more of a push is what I’m gonna choose to take from that segment. Rusev Day! Rusev Day! Rusev Day!
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    So Rusev is a face now? And he's an American? OK, got my notes updated.
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