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posted on 11-25-2018 at 07:40 AM Edit Post
You guys did see the line right before the highlighted one right... "obviously not a deal breaker for Vince to push a guy".
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posted on 11-26-2018 at 03:30 PM Edit Post
Starrcade was last night and an hour of it is on the Network. Standard house show headlined by AJ/Joe in a cage. Non televised matches included Rollins/Ambrose in a cage (not ready for that yet to be televised yet) and Bray Wyatt made a surprise return.



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posted on 11-26-2018 at 04:45 PM Edit Post
Larry Matysik, who was the voice of the St. Louis-area "Wrestling At The Chase" program in the days of promoter Sam Muchnick, passed away over the weekend after a long illness.

Old-school fans in my area practically worshipped that era and its stars (i.e. King Kong/Bruiser Brody). He was still involved with wrestling on the local scene and I was fortunate to have a few good conversations with the man at SICW events. Despite his physical ailments later in life, he always stayed positive and loved meeting and talking with the fans. I truly wish I'd gotten to know him better than I did.





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posted on 11-26-2018 at 05:46 PM Edit Post
Quite surprised to see Wyatt's return happen at an event with all hands on deck.

In a completely different story, I see a few reports that Drake Maverick couldn't get the gimmick to work (as we could see) at Survivor Series so actually pissed himself for real. That kind of dedication will take him far...

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posted on 11-26-2018 at 06:06 PM Edit Post
Not surprising if true. I wrote in the Survivor Series thread that you could see him very conspicuously grabbing around his midsection for something, to the extent that it became obvious what was about to happen several seconds before it actually did.

[Edited on 11-26-2018 by Cherokee Jack]





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posted on 11-26-2018 at 07:36 PM Edit Post
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Quite surprised to see Wyatt's return happen at an event with all hands on deck.




Might have been a last minute thing due to Braun's injury. I'm dissapointed Bray looks to be more or less the same but I wouldn't mind if he just slips in into Braun's spot on the card while the big guy is recovering.

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posted on 11-26-2018 at 07:59 PM Edit Post
Hmm. Could Bray perhaps end up in Lars position after the above revelations?
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posted on 11-26-2018 at 08:25 PM Edit Post
* Rumor is that Seth Rollins will be positioned to replace Reigns as the RAW brand's top babyface. He is currently penciled in to win the Rumble and face Brock at Mania.

* John Cena's filming will be wrapping up soon and he is being added to more WWE house shows. It is expected that he will wrestle at the Rumble against Daniel Bryan.

* The new promotion rumored to be started up by the Elite has approached two current WWE stars whose deals are up in 2019 and they have "provisionally accepted" deals with the new company. Those two are rumored to be AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura.





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posted on 11-26-2018 at 08:46 PM Edit Post
Speaking of Lars, another of his previous comments has come to light and....whoa.

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Not a troll thread, just a thought. And the thought is that there’s a grey area when it comes to sexual intercourse and rape. There’s 100% complete consensual sex when a woman will rip off her clothes and jump on you, then there’s levels that don’t quite reach 100% consent.

Most women like men to take control, at what point is it too much control? I’m not insinuating that the politician who spewed the nonsense about women controlling when they get pregnant by switching it off in their brain is right, he’s a complete moron. But the fact is there is a grey area when it comes to the definition of rape.






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posted on 11-26-2018 at 09:35 PM Edit Post
"What's Sully Larson doing in the Impact Zone?!"

[Edited on 11-26-2018 by CCharger]





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posted on 11-26-2018 at 10:40 PM Edit Post
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Originally posted by First 9
quote:
Originally posted by SpiNNeR72
Quite surprised to see Wyatt's return happen at an event with all hands on deck.




Might have been a last minute thing due to Braun's injury. I'm dissapointed Bray looks to be more or less the same but I wouldn't mind if he just slips in into Braun's spot on the card while the big guy is recovering.


I wouldn't just mind, I would be ecstatic. I could use a break from Braun, especially versus Brock. Let Bray kill Baron Corbin and then fight Brock at the Rumble.





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posted on 11-26-2018 at 11:27 PM Edit Post
* except for Sasha & Bayley (so far) six of the eight other Horsewomen (and Tessa Blanchard too) are now involved in the Twitter beef Becky Lynch initiated against Ronda Rousey:

https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/11/26/18113280/becky-lynch-ronda-rousey-twitter-battle-joined-charlotte-flair-shayna-baszler-nxt-mma-horsewomen





Well you know, just because these young men have little education and live in squalor, it doesn't entitle them to commit antisocial behaviour and get away with it.

it's a child molesting robot

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posted on 11-27-2018 at 02:06 AM Edit Post
What evidence is there that Lars Sullivan made the comments on that message board? I'm reading these claims that he's made a bunch of stupid comments, and I've clicked on the links and read the comments belonging to the same message board commenter, but I haven't yet seen evidence linking the two together.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 02:12 AM Edit Post
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What evidence is there that Lars Sullivan made the comments on that message board? I'm reading these claims that he's made a bunch of stupid comments, and I've clicked on the links and read the comments belonging to the same message board commenter, but I haven't yet seen evidence linking the two together.


The Disenfranchised one has his photos on it, the elperfecto one was stating about his deal with WWE developmental, and that forum has also made mention of the fact that its him.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 05:17 AM Edit Post
Interested to see what our friends across The Pomd think of this...

* WWE has banned their UK guys from working non WWE/PROGRESS/ICW/WXW indy shows next year.
Nor can WWE contracted UK guys be booked against other contracted wrestlers for the remainder of their indy dates on indy shows. I'm sure the resident WWE apologists will think this is fine, but I think it really hurts both the smaller, local indies AND the non-WWE workers trying to make a living off of it.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 07:42 AM Edit Post
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Originally posted by CCharger
Interested to see what our friends across The Pomd think of this...

* WWE has banned their UK guys from working non WWE/PROGRESS/ICW/WXW indy shows next year.
Nor can WWE contracted UK guys be booked against other contracted wrestlers for the remainder of their indy dates on indy shows. I'm sure the resident WWE apologists will think this is fine, but I think it really hurts both the smaller, local indies AND the non-WWE workers trying to make a living off of it.


Hi there...WWE apologist Brad here. Aka big fat goalie. Aka BFG. Aka Douce. Aka Douchebag.

With all due, and thus little, respect....your post is fucking misleading as all fuck.

The WWE reportedly gave several NXT Uk stars new, exclusive contracts. With these new contracts, comes new rules for a) the remainder of the year and b) next year. The big new rule is that NXT UK talent will be barred from wrestling anyone contracted to ROH, Impact, NJPW, WOS or other major promotions

This is good for WWE, the dudes and dudettes making more money, and the promotions that are WWE approved. This is bad for folks who want to compete with WWE.

For small indy promotions...yup, this sucks. Less name guys to go after. Although with guys getting money from WWE, I’d imagine a lot of promotions were priced out from being able to hire certain guys. Although it could mean guys who’d previously work Progress for example, signed to say Impact, may be easier to get.

For non-WWE wrestlers...if you are signed to NJPW, ROH, or Impact...why are you shocked that you can’t wrestle WWE guys? Also, I think WWE guys competing for the same spots on Indy shows would hurt you. All of a sudden you are a much bigger fish to those guys.

If you are not signed to anybody....you could still get bookings with PROGRESS, ICW and wXw against WWE talent. And might be more likely to now that the ROH etc guys can’t get those matches.

Also of note...not every WWE UK guy signed a new deal. And thus are not held to, nor subject to any sort of ban. The reason for this was due to poor attendance for WWE UK tv takings. And guys showing up hurt from working smaller shows.

So basically WWE is increasing their commitment to the UK market, their UK talent, and their UK partners. Fuck the WWE for wanting something pretty reasonable in return right?

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posted on 11-27-2018 at 10:18 AM Edit Post
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The Disenfranchised one has his photos on it, the elperfecto one was stating about his deal with WWE developmental, and that forum has also made mention of the fact that its him.


Thank you for that.

I read elperfecto's comments but hadn't seen a post where elperfecto stated he had a WWE developmental deal. I still don't think that is proof enough it was him. He could still deny it. I've seen one photo posted as Disenfranchised and I'm not convinced its him. There's enough of a resemblance for me to believe that it might be.

Regardless, I read that WWE ran a promo video for him last night, so he hasn't been fired yet. He's apparently a hot "free agent." But he's not a real free agent.

If all that shit sticks to him and management believes they have enough proof to think all of it was him, then I can't see why they'd want him around for much longer.

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posted on 11-27-2018 at 11:39 AM Edit Post
The Lars Sullivan stuff is only a big deal if it becomes news...ACTUAL news (if the terms “wrestling”, “pro”, “pro wrestling”, “newz”, or “sports entertainment” are in any way, shape, or form in the name of the story’s publisher, it’s not real news). Like if this becomes an article on Bleacher Report that pops up somewhere near the bottom of the real sports news feed, that’s it for Lars. Until then, Vince and company will care about this as much as they care about the stories about rumored backstage heat and potential reasons someone was not on TV for a week.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 01:48 PM Edit Post
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Brad here

Hello, Mr. Maddox

quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
your post is fucking misleading as all fuck.

Really? Seems basically identical to yours...let's see...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
WWE has banned their UK guys from working non WWE/PROGRESS/ICW/WXW indy shows next year.


quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
NXT UK talent will be barred from wrestling anyone contracted to ROH, Impact, NJPW, WOS or other major promotions

Hmmm...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
I'm sure the resident WWE apologists will think this is fine,



quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
WWE apologist Brad here...This is good for WWE

OK...go on...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
I think it really hurts both the smaller, local indies


quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
For small indy promotions...yup, this sucks



Yes...OK...now where exactly is my post misleading and/or markedly different from yours?

quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
So basically WWE is increasing their commitment to the UK market, their UK talent, and their UK partners. Fuck the WWE for wanting something pretty reasonable in return right?

No, fuck the WWE for being an immense fish in an very small pond and feeling the need to devour all the little fish for...what exactly? I mean there's lots of indie promotions/opportunities for US guys, but the Brits? I can't imagine there are a lot of great opportunities to wrestle outside of Progress, ICW, and WXW. It similar to if WWE were partners with Impact, ROH, and MLW. So now American guys contracted to NXT can't work for any companies outside of WWE, NXT, Impact, ROH, and MLW? I guess from a purely animalistic capitalistic POV that's fine for WWE, but from an industry POV with men and women eager for opportunities and well paying gigs, that's pretty shitty IMO.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 03:58 PM Edit Post
I was surprised that they ever allowed it in the first place. WWE isn't exactly known for its love of competition, even small fish. They'd rather eat them. Like, I get that it sucks, especially for fans of Indy promotions in the UK, but it's not shocking or unexpected or even unethical.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 05:52 PM Edit Post
Because CCharger is a jackoff I’ll simplify:

WWE signed NXT UK talent to new exclusive deals.

Failing to mention that TWICE is fucking misleading. But being anti WWE makes CCharger...special.

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posted on 11-27-2018 at 05:58 PM Edit Post
No, it's not misleading. It's implied.

By signing them to exclusive deals means they can no longer work for people they used to be able to work for.

You used the "bar". I used the word "ban". Does it matter?

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about semantics? Or are you just being an argumentative dick?





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 06:46 PM Edit Post
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No, it's not misleading. It's implied.

By signing them to exclusive deals means they can no longer work for people they used to be able to work for.

You used the "bar". I used the word "ban". Does it matter?

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about semantics? Or are you just being an argumentative dick?



You come out guns blazing insulting people, leave out the main part of an actual news item, but fuck me, I’m the dick.

You don’t like WWE. We get it. Now piss off.

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Rumor: WWE just signed Progress World Champ WALTER to NXT UK.





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posted on 11-27-2018 at 08:07 PM Edit Post
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quote:
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Brad here

Hello, Mr. Maddox

quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
your post is fucking misleading as all fuck.

Really? Seems basically identical to yours...let's see...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
WWE has banned their UK guys from working non WWE/PROGRESS/ICW/WXW indy shows next year.


quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
NXT UK talent will be barred from wrestling anyone contracted to ROH, Impact, NJPW, WOS or other major promotions

Hmmm...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
I'm sure the resident WWE apologists will think this is fine,



quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
WWE apologist Brad here...This is good for WWE

OK...go on...

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
I think it really hurts both the smaller, local indies


quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
For small indy promotions...yup, this sucks



Yes...OK...now where exactly is my post misleading and/or markedly different from yours?

quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
So basically WWE is increasing their commitment to the UK market, their UK talent, and their UK partners. Fuck the WWE for wanting something pretty reasonable in return right?

No, fuck the WWE for being an immense fish in an very small pond and feeling the need to devour all the little fish for...what exactly? I mean there's lots of indie promotions/opportunities for US guys, but the Brits? I can't imagine there are a lot of great opportunities to wrestle outside of Progress, ICW, and WXW. It similar to if WWE were partners with Impact, ROH, and MLW. So now American guys contracted to NXT can't work for any companies outside of WWE, NXT, Impact, ROH, and MLW? I guess from a purely animalistic capitalistic POV that's fine for WWE, but from an industry POV with men and women eager for opportunities and well paying gigs, that's pretty shitty IMO.





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