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posted on 2-25-2018 at 10:35 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
PPV DISCUSSION: RAW presents Elimination Chamber 2018

PPV tonight. And while the women continue to equal the men, gimmick match for gimmick match, neither Chamber contest seems likely to shift us off the expected course for WrestleMania 34.

Here's the as-announced card:

Men's Elimination Chamber Match (for a shot against WWEU Champ Brock Lesnar) (Roman Reigns, Braun Strowman, John Cena, Miz, Elias, Finn Balor, Seth Rollins)
Women's Elimination Chamber Match (for the RAW Women's Title) (Champ Alexa Bliss, Sasha Banks, Bayley, Mickie James, Mandy Rose, Sonya DeVille)
Sheamus & Cesaro vs. Apollo Crews & Titus O'Neil (RAW Tag Title Match)
Asuka vs. Nia Jax (If Jax Wins, She Also Receives a WM Title Shot, Or Something Like That)
Matt Hardy vs. Bray Wyatt
Ronda Rousey Contract Signing
The Good Brothers vs. The Miztourage (Kick Off Show)

Roman Reigns winning the WWEU Title from Brock Lesnar at WM34 has been Vince's Masterplan since last summer, and there's little indication that he's been talked off it. I'd give Strowman a fighting chance, as WWE's best option for a swerve, too, but not much else for the other 5. [Demoralized Cena seems to be an on-purpose narrative, so he has to lose to continue it; challenging Taker then becomes his "path" to WM. Miz is the IC Champ, and the most credible he's been in years, but is also going to be booked in a way that makes it possible to miss WM, if his child's birth happens to coincide. I guess maybe Rollins would have a case for a very outside shot, too, if WWE totally decided to shake things up after Jordan's injury.]

Likewise, I'm having a hard time envisioning a WM scenario where Alexa isn't defending against Nia Jax... so the Goddess is your odds-on favorite to win the first ever Women's Chamber Match. But the stipulation for Asuka/Jax is convoluted enough that I honestly have no idea if it even matters who wins that one (since the plan has always been for Asuka to take her Rumble win and go challenge Charlotte, anyway)...

The Bar retain. Revival and/or Good Brothers step up in time for Mania (Triple Threat with those guys could be outstanding).

Hardy/Wyatt either goes to a non-finish, or a less-than-clean win for Matt (to make up for Wyatt going over at RAW 25). In either case, a non-decisive way to kick the can down the road, where WWE wants to do its own version of the Hardy Compound "Match" (and yes, Jeff Hardy returning in time to partake, before veering off to his own solo agenda, is a very real possibility).

Hot Ronda's contract signing means Rousey's in the same ring with GM Kurt Angle and Commish Stephanie McMahon. WWE really really wanted to get the Rock involved with Ronda's WM storyline, but I trust you all can do the math on the obvious back-up plan....

Gallows and Anderson win on the pre-show because aforementioned reason.

That is all. End communication...

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Hardy/Wyatt either goes to a non-finish, or a less-than-clean win for Matt (to make up for Wyatt going over at RAW 25). In either case, a non-decisive way to kick the can down the road, where WWE wants to do its own version of the Hardy Compound "Match" (and yes, Jeff Hardy returning in time to partake, before veering off to his own solo agenda, is a very real possibility).



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Godit, Mickie was on a roll. And we all know that's the best way to serve sloppy roast beef.





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If these comments don't scream "Women's Revolution", I don't know what does.





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I am going to barf. ANd now the fans making it worse. And what the fuck is the point of this promo? She is supposed to be a heel? This was absolutely booked by Bucky Beaver. He probably collapsed from all the orgasms he was having. The Raw women's division is officially dead.

[Edited on 2-26-2018 by royberto]

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She did exactly what she was supposed to do. Heel'd. I love her.





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So...did they fuck up there? Because is Asuka’s going to SmackDown to face Charlotte, Alexa turning face would have made a lot of sense.
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I am going to barf. ANd now the fans making it worse. And what the fuck is the point of this promo? She is supposed to be a heel? This was absolutely booked by Bucky Beaver. He probably collapsed from all the orgasms he was having. The Raw women's division is officially dead.

[Edited on 2-26-2018 by royberto]



Hahahaha what? Classic Roybs.





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So...did they fuck up there? Because is Asuka’s going to SmackDown to face Charlotte, Alexa turning face would have made a lot of sense.
Nobody ever said Auska was facing Charlotte. It was assumed.

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She did exactly what she was supposed to do. Heel'd. I love her.


Fact.

That match was really good, particularly once Mickie entered.





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I am going to barf. ANd now the fans making it worse. And what the fuck is the point of this promo? She is supposed to be a heel? This was absolutely booked by Bucky Beaver. He probably collapsed from all the orgasms he was having. The Raw women's division is officially dead.

[Edited on 2-26-2018 by royberto]



Hahahaha what?
Not BS when it is true. They buried Absolution, took Mickie out early, then had Alexa dominate both Bayley and Sasha. The shittiest wrestler just went over the entire division without breaking a sweat. More bullshit booking for Alexa Reigns.



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It has been awhile since we had a smeltdown* in these parts.

*That's a smark-meltdown.





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Never thought I wouls see the day when someone actually steals the Alexandra York gimmick.
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Mickie has been Champeenchimp caliber throughout her return run and is much better than the enhancement talent role she's in now. Shiiiiiiiit, the crowd was even pissed after she got eliminated. I like Mickie, the crowd likes Mickie, we've all seen't her biscuits...WTF Vince?!? #justiceformickie #saynotowweageism #allvagenesarebeautifuleventhegrossdanglyones





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What match was that guy watching?

Absolution got a couple minutes dominating early. Mickie came in and dominated before getting the multiple finisher treatment. Alexa stole a cheep pin on Bayley and the final fall was back and forth.





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Not BS when it is true. They buried Absolution, took Mickie out early, then had Alexa dominate both Bayley and Sasha. The shittiest wrestler just went over the entire division without breaking a sweat. More bullshit booking for Alexa Reigns.



So the rookies making a rookie mistake = buried.

Mickie getting one of the bigger spots and an elimination = not in the match long enough.

Sasha and Bayley double teaming Alexa & Sasha no selling a Twisted Bliss off the pod = Bliss dominating.

FFS...Roy = 2018 Jackass Of The Year bOOardie Winner.

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What match was that guy watching?

Absolution got a couple minutes dominating early. Mickie came in and dominated before getting the multiple finisher treatment. Alexa stole a cheep pin on Bayley and the final fall was back and forth.
What match were you watching? Bayley was taking Absolution out with ease. they, and then Mickie got pinned before Alexa Reigns even got out of her pod. Then Alexa finally gets out and runs around until she gets shots in and then dominates 90% of the match, took almost nothing and pinned both Bayley and Sahsa clean without hardly any effort. That isn't how you book a chickenshit heel. You book her to get beaten into a pulp, but somehow manages to get fluke pins. You don't book her to dominate, especially after the whole build was around her being scared to even be in the match in the first place. You sure as hell don't have her cut that bullshit promo afterwards.

Assuming Auska goes to Smackdown to face Charlotte, there is absolutely nothing left of the Raw women's division. Everyone has been squashed to make Alexa Reigns look strong. Alexa pinning Nia clean after at Mania will be the cherry on the shit sundae.

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So the rookies making a rookie mistake = buried.
Bayley kicking both their asses with ease = "making a rookie mistake"? Good one.

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Mickie getting one of the bigger spots and an elimination = not in the match long enough.
They made a huge deal about how Mickie and Alexa Reigns formed an alliance in the build to the match, then job Mickie out before Alexa even gets in the match. Are you so dense as to not see how riculous that is?

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Sasha and Bayley double teaming Alexa & Sasha no selling a Twisted Bliss off the pod = Bliss dominating.
What double teaming? They spent most of the time battling each other. Alexa Reigns got 95% of the offense when she was actually involved and got two clean pins. She got the big move off the cage and barely took any bumps. That pretty much is the definition of dominating.

It's quite hilarious watching people blindly defend this shit because it is the same booking Roman Reigns gets and you all bitch about that. The hypocrisy is astounding.

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I can't wait for Becky to move to RAM post-WM and get jobbed to Alexa.


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At least I finally understand the stipulation of this Asuka/Jax match.... if Jax wins, she follows Asuka into whatever title match Asuka picks. It is now (as I assumed), Jax automatically being added to the RAW title match, while Asuka is free to do whatever.

The latter is what made more sense (Asuka could lose her streak to Jax -- which is a halfway decent idea to get out of the way before a title match -- and then immediately get away from Nia by deciding to challenge Charlotte), but they never came even close to clarifying until ring intros tonight, and now we know it's the former.

Also, welcome back, berto! You've been failing to make me shake my head in bemusement for far too long!

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