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denverpunk
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posted on 1-26-2019 at 10:49 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Conservative media are losing their collective minds, with Coulter leading the revolt, calling Trump the biggest wimp of a president we’ve ever had. Hannity is still standing by him, but there are breaks in the ranks. If the hardliners abandon him, then he’s finished.

But, another thing to consider is that the reactionaries are basically mad at Trump for not being an even bigger asshole, begging the question of what Balrog will actually be representing the GOP in 2020 if not him.

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posted on 1-27-2019 at 07:37 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm seeing some of the effects of th backlash first-hand. Small example, but on my commute to work, I pass by a house that for over the past 2 years or so has had a flag that said "TRUMP: No More Bullshit", along with an American flag, a USMC flag, and a "Don't Tread on Me" flag. In times of bad weather and during the winter, they'd usually take away the other flags, but the Trump flag was still left there, probably since it was made of a sturdier-looking fiber.

Every time I see the headlines, no matter how bad things would seem, that flag was always there, and I'd wonder" What would be this person's breaking point?" Even during the shutdown, it was still there. Si imagine my surprise when I drive by yesterday, and lo and behold, that flag was nowhere to be seen.

Paddlefoot was absolutely right, the best way to beat him is to stand firm and show that you have a spine, since many in his base are now viewing him as a weakling instead of the tough alpha male that he's portrayed himself as. Those kinds of people are his bread and butter, and if he's losing them, he's in deep shit.





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posted on 2-15-2019 at 12:43 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
So we are getting a National Emergency, over the border wall. Which begs the question, When a Democrat becomes President (it will happen eventually, right?) what is the first National Emergency they declare? After the first mass shooting and gun control, or Climate Change and switching to green policy?





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posted on 2-15-2019 at 01:15 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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So we are getting a National Emergency, over the border wall. Which begs the question, When a Democrat becomes President (it will happen eventually, right?) what is the first National Emergency they declare? After the first mass shooting and gun control, or Climate Change and switching to green policy?


It'll be climate change. I don't think Democratic leadership really wants to declare a national emergency over gun control. That's why Nancy Pelosi used gun control as an example: use the one that really scares conservatives as a boogeyman, leave the one they might actually want unspoken.

'Course, this all presupposes a Democratic president getting into the position to declare a national emergency before Congress passes laws making it harder. If the Democrats take over the Senate in 2020, I think there's a good chance that putting constraints on the presidency is a high priority after four years of Trump, even if Trump loses re-election.

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posted on 2-15-2019 at 01:43 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I don’t expect this emergency declaration will survive the massive amounts of legal challenges that will come its way (though it’ll likely come down to a Supreme Court decision so who knows), but if it does, precedent set motherfucker.

Climate change
Healthcare
Infrastructure
Student loan debt
And yes, guns and mass shootings.

All of these things constitute higher degrees of “emergency” than illegal border crossings, and the next democratic president should make it clear to congress that these are issues that need to be dealt with in short order, and if there’s no cooperation make the declarations.

I understand (and honestly can agree with) the notion that executive power needs to be reigned in some, but I also fully realize that the other side of the aisle has no principles at all (you really think that if a SCOTUS seat comes open during 2020 that Mitch won’t rush to fill it as quickly as possible before the election? Hell he’d do it after the election in the lame duck session if a democrat wins), the ends justify the means for them and any restraints put on presidential powers will immediately be removed or ignored once they’re in power again.

There’s an argument to be made that there needs to be a massive overhaul of how our government operates that can’t be fucked with by whoever happens to be in power at the moment, but beyond a whole new constitutional convention (and holy FUCK what an colossal shitshow that would be in this day and age) I don’t know what that would entail.

[Edited on 2-15-2019 by Cherokee Jack]





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posted on 2-16-2019 at 12:13 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Also, a very interesting twist to this. Devin Nunes, one of Trump's biggest supporters, supported the bill, but Alexandra Ocasio Cortez, who is one of his biggest critics, voted against it.





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