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posted on 10-3-2017 at 10:28 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
NHL 2017-2018

ONE MORE SLEEP!!! My likely not as good as last year predictions...


Atlantic = Tampa
Metro = Columbus

Pacific = Edmonton
Central = Minnesota

Playoffs

Leafs over Pens
Oilers over Blackhawks

Leafs over Oilers*

Hart = McDavid
Art Ross = McDavid
Norris = Hedman
Calder = Nico Hischier


Extra Predictions = Montreal/Ottawa/Florida will be in a dog fight for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic. 5 Metro teams make the playoffs. Nashville takes a step back. The Ducks or Kings trade for John Taveres.

*My original thought was Leafs/Oilers were each a year away. But the more I think about it, the more I'm not sure the Hawks, Preds, Wild, Lightning or Pens are better. My final pick is based on Lupul officially going on LTIR. The Leafs now have cap room and NHL assets (JVR, Uncle Leo, Leivo) to go along with picks and prospects if they feel they are close. Considering their bad start and horrible OT record, last years team wasn't far off from winning their division. If none of the super sophmores (Matthews/Nylander/Marner) regress this team is going to be scary up front. Jack Gardiner looks ready to take a step up. Hainsey is a huge upgrade.

We live in an age when crazy shit happens...so why not pick the Leafs to win the Cup?

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posted on 10-6-2017 at 08:32 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I don't know if its been because of years of abuse for being a Leafs fan, or what... but I just can't bring myself to truth them as being a good team... despite evidence to the contrary.

In saying that; if Borgman turns out to be another Zaitsev, Gardiner stays at his current level, and Reilly has that breakout year we all know he has in him then I do think the sky's the moon for the Leafs... even adding Hainsey added a nice calming, veteran presence to the line up that I think will elevate the kids to be better.

Again; call it my cautious Leaf side, but there may be reason to fear the dreaded sophomore slump for your trio of superstars up front... I think they avoid a bad one, but hitting the same or exceeding last years lofty achievements might be hard... thankfully there's some genuine secondary scoring there with the addition of Marleau, and Kadri's elevation of his game.

So yeah.. why not the Leafs for the cup?

I think the Pens have it in them for another good run, but there has to come a time when playing so many playoff games is bound to catch up to them... I don't think we'll get a Hawks or Kings like crash any time soon; but there is going to come a series where younger and more rested legs are going to skate past the Pens.

I think maybe Minnesota, Chicago, and Nashville might see a step back again this year... ditto for Columbus. In the East you don't want to look past constant over achievers the Sens, but they are probably ripe for a big drop this year...

I'm too tired right now to make some guesses; I'll give it some more thought and post something later... I will say this though: I think this is going to be a good year for hockey... lot's of big teams with bigger expectations... lots of emerging powerhouses, some faltering powerhouses in transition, and some big questions surround teams like LVK and the Avalanche as to how far they'll be going in terms of moving out players. Throw in the possible announcement for a 32nd team and the roster jockeying that might start early to deal with that (even if it is two years away maybe?) and it should be an interesting and fun. year.

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posted on 10-19-2017 at 04:30 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The Leafs have looked very good this year...and still have areas to make big improvements. This feels weird. Also days before other Canadian fan bases are done with hearing about how awesome Auston Matthews is? Last Monday.
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posted on 10-24-2017 at 12:48 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Atlantic = Tampa
Metro = Pittsburgh

Pacific = Los Angeles
Central = Chicago

Playoffs

Tampa over Blue Jackets
Vancouver over Blues

Lightening over Canuks


Extra Predictions = Vegas will make the playoffs, Tavares stays in NY.





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posted on 11-5-2017 at 11:27 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Leafs who are driving my crazy = Gardiner, Bozak, JVR.

Leafs who I would not trade for McDavid = Matthews.

Would love if the Leafs could move Jake and a forward for a right handed d so that Hainsey can play the left side.

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posted on 11-11-2017 at 12:30 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I might be prejudiced after having been able to watch him for 3 seasons in Erie, but damn if I can figure any else who's more fun to watch in overtime than Connor McDavid (especially if he's on the ice with Draisatl).





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posted on 11-13-2017 at 01:13 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Save of the year... not just because I am a Jacket fan







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posted on 1-27-2018 at 08:31 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
So not looking good....my pick of Oilers vs Hawks in the WCF.

Also not looking good...the east. Maybe it's because I don't watch too many Metro games, but what is up with the conference? 3 of the top 4 teams are in the Atlantic...and the rest of the division sucks. The Leafs have a 15 point cushion over 4th place Detroit, meanwhile Metro leading Washington has an 11 point lead over 8th place Carolina.

It's looking like we are heading towards another year of Pens vs Jackets, followed by Pens vs Caps. And I'm not sure if Tampa will lose a game before the eastern conference finals.

Also...the Blackhawks are winning the draft lottery right?

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Kinda hoping the Sens win it. Man what a bummer of a season. You know things have fallen apart when you hear rumours that Karlsson could be traded. I am not sure I can stick with them if they were to do that, it would be crushing.

Equally as crushing is seeing the damn Leafs not only have a good team, but dare I say (outside of Kadri) a likable and fun team.





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posted on 2-13-2018 at 07:52 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Sens winning the lottery would put them back in the playoff picture. Actually, Ottawa will need to be better next year or possibly end up giving the Avs a top pick.

And yeah...Kadri does a lot of shit that pisses me off. Only plus side is hes not even the number one villain in the division.

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posted on 2-16-2018 at 06:51 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The Edmonton papers are good for a laugh. In October they were predicting a blowout in the Oilers first game against the LVGK. Unfortunately for them it turned out to be a good solid beating tonight with Vegas winning 4-1. That's it, Edmonton, cry those bitter tears. Serves you right for your persistent insane belief that you have every year that every other team is just going to fold in up in front of you. ha-ha-ha and
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posted on 2-16-2018 at 10:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I think this year is kind of an anomaly though Pad'- the Oilers were heavy favourites going into the season to go deep into the playoffs (I think THN called for an Oil'-Pens showdown for the cup)... and really; who saw VGK coming? Neal and Perron were meant to be trade fodder to help with building a team, not helping to carry the team to the playoffs.William Karlsson has been a revelation.

VGK will be interesting to watch; I mean I get that selling the idea of building a core of players, and a deep draft system are key for long term success, but this isn't a bubble team right now, so how do you not try and keep at least Neal for a cup run and some star power assuming you can re-sign him (VGK has about $68m in salary right now with Karlsson to re-sign for next season, but otherwise they have a lot of salary coming off next year, so coming up with the cash for a Neal or Perron wouldn't be a problem).

On top of that VGK managed to swing 12 picks in last years draft; and while this summers mostly just their own picks, 2019 has them pretty loaded with 3 2nd rounders, and some extra third rounders as well... So does getting more picks really help them more than looking competitive in the playoffs in their first year?

Plus if they do have the cap room could they be a team that eschews the slow internal build and instead look at a decent free agent class this summer?

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posted on 2-23-2018 at 10:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Heres a problem for the rest of the NHL:

Sheary-Crosby-Rust
Hagelin-Malkin-Hornqvist
Guentzel-Brassard-Kessel

Man, Id hate to be a Capitals fan.

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posted on 2-24-2018 at 06:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I like what Ottawa got out of this; and this is fantastic for the Penguins; but I'm a bit baffled by the VGK angle who got Ryan Reaves (who the Penguins gave up their 2017 1st rounder last year for... they got a 2nd back though)... a good tough player; but otherwise they only got a 4th rounder in exchange for taking on %40 of Brassards contract... which won't be much this year, but next year will cost them about $2.2 million... Maybe they are worried about getting to the cap floor next year?

Apparently this was a really tough deal to work out; and the league vetoed an earlier version of the deal due to cap rules and such... in the end though odds are everyone is happy; although I'd be weary of trading away too many first round picks (not that it's hurting them thus far) but they traded away Kasperi Kapanen who was their only first round pick since 2012.... and they have also traded a lot of second and third round picks away over the years. They have a couple of good prospects in the system (Sprong, Aston-Reese, Jarry); but that can dry up easily enough, or leave you with little to trade/plug holes with later via trades.

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posted on 2-26-2018 at 11:09 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Looks like Tampa saw the Penguins bet and raised; adding Ryan McDonaugh and JT Miller today... I still think the Penguins are going to be the team to beat; but Tampa Bay was already a serious contender before, and just got better.

Bruins added Nash over the weekend... While I don't see the Bruins doing a lot it was a nice pick up for them, and really getting Belesky's contract off the books is probably the better long term win out of this.

I liked Toronto's pick up of Pleckanec... adds depth that can play higher or lower in the line up, and he's pure rental so they won't be burdened with his contract or have to worry about keeping him too happy if he only sticks on the fourth line. Still, I would have like to see Toronto try and get some more defensive help... didn't have to be McDonaugh as was long rumoured, but with St. Louis selling (they sent Statsny to the Jets) maybe Bouwmeester might have been available? The buzz about TSN up here is that the Leafs maybe did have a deal worked out with Detroit for Mike Green, but Green blocked it.

Evander Kane goes to SJ, and while they could still sign something the buzz is that this was just done as a rental situation and that SJ will probably let Kane go UFA this summer.

One deal that surprised me was Vegas getting Tomas Tatar from Detroit... Solid pick up; but for a team with virtually no pressure on it and a need to continue stocking their draft system I was surprised to see them trade away a 1st round in 2018, a 2nd in 2019, and a 3rd in 2021.

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Vegas had sooooo many picks though it isn't going to hurt them to lose those picks for a player of Tatar's quality. I like that they are giving themselves a chance to make an actual run in their first year, pretty amazing.





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posted on 3-20-2018 at 10:36 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Terrible news out of Ottawa regarding Karlsson and his wife.
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posted on 3-30-2018 at 03:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Doubling posting because the best sports story of the year just took place...

Emergency goalie Scott Foster stops seven shots and allows no goals against the Winnipeg Jets! Like seriously, the dude is a full time accountant. He last played comepetively over 10 years ago.

Hockey is great.

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It's a cool story; dude put in a full day at his day job and was right back there the next day too... Bonus; he took home the nights first star.
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posted on 4-16-2018 at 11:53 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Playoff hockey, is there anything better?

Columbus up 2-0 after two road games (both OT)
Knights up 3-0 scoring less goals in the series than Pittsburgh scored in game one
Leafs forgetting how to play defense





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Shit, Kings. Shit.





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I'm a bit split on the how I would feel if the Leafs just completely blow it... I mean there is a part of me that was only just starting to shake that automatic feeling of "Yup, Leafs'll blow it" that can only come with being a life long Leafs fan... I mean I in no way figured they'd be favoured for the Cup this year, but getting out of the first round at least would be seen as moving forward and a benchmark for success... But really... if you blow it in the first round instead of the second is that really that much more of a travesty?

I guess it will come down to HOW they lose... like a bunch of tight games, going the distance in the series are one thing, but if they continue to play like they have the first two games then yeah... failure.

But really... what would that mean? I mean your core of youth players aren't likely to be moved... JVR, Bozak, and Komarov are all unlikely to be back (Maybe one of them?), and defense is still their biggest glaring need... So really, from a taking the next step standpoint nothing would change.

Leafs aside; it would be pretty damned cool if Vegas were to win the cup right out of the gate.

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it would be pretty damned cool if Vegas were to win the cup right out of the gate.
I hope you put a bet down somewhere on this. Holy Improbable Outcomes, Batman.

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posted on 5-22-2018 at 02:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Im just glad I dont have to see any more you should be cheering for the Jets crap. Fuck that. I cheer for the Leafs. Not the relocated Thrashers.
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posted on 5-22-2018 at 03:39 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Leafs fans? Well, I guess there has to be at least one of you.

I'll miss the Jets. They did a fine job this year and are primed for more success over the next couple of years if they can keep the game plan going. Vegas though? That's a team of destiny. I want them to win it all just to make history by being the most immediately successful expansion team from any professional league sport ever. And there's enough Canadian money being spent at their games that they're as close to being "Canada's Team" as any city south of the border can claim.

Absolutely fantastic year for the league overall (as long as you weren't unlucky enough to be an Oilers/Flames/Canadiens/Senators/Canucks fan ) and a terrific set of playoffs series thus far. Plus a history-making Final in the making. Definitely overall a year where things went very well for professional hockey in North America.





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