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posted on 9-19-2017 at 07:40 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
She's 100% right, for what it's worth.
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posted on 9-19-2017 at 07:56 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Can't see Sasha sticking around long term for WWE. And I highly doubt that she's the only NXT grad who wishes they were somewhere else after dealing for a while with the beyond-frustrating manner with how the big TV shows are run.





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posted on 9-19-2017 at 08:32 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Meanwhile, Sasha recently removed any references to the WWE on her Twitter account.


I imagine the twitter comment was part of the story as well, but the business inquiries line in her blurb, and lack of WWE comments long pre-dates this story as I remember seeing that on there several months ago and thought it was weird then.

Also for what it's worth her last tweet was from December 2016, so I don't think the twitter part of the story is that big of a deal, or at least as immediately tied to the story.

As for her speaking out against the WWE; here's hoping some good of it comes out... I mean last time a female WWE star spoke out (AJ Lee) it caused a quasi-panic mode in the company to try and spin things in a more positive light, and probably in a big way helped lead to the ladies getting more time.

In saying that, the problem above all others is how the WWE handles their booking and story plotting, and I don't see Vince changing that any time soon... I get you probably need to fine tune stuff week to week to stay relevant and work around injuries or other stuff that comes up, but there's no reason that they shouldn't have a big board planned out months in advance to varying degrees of completion... I mean even from a saving money on travel for talent instead of bringing some in to sit there in catering, or what have you, or even to just... you know, make shows better as the talent can be more involved in stories if they know where they are going.

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posted on 9-19-2017 at 11:12 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
In regards to Sasha....to quote Edge...."Hit the bricks toots!" She is a good hand in the ring, but the woman can never stay healthy for long stretches. Also, everything you hear is that she is a real diva and has a real bad attitude towards fans outside the ring. Don't approach her at the airport, or she will take your fucking head off!!





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posted on 9-20-2017 at 01:52 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I would not be surprised if they do one of those unexpected title changes at a house show deals that they like to do in Europe to make this event a bit more special. Here is the card per wwe.com:

Bobby Roode vs. Dolph Ziggler



Whoa! As if his current angle isn't bad enough they go and spoil the punchline!

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posted on 9-20-2017 at 04:22 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Meanwhile, Sasha recently removed any references to the WWE on her Twitter account.


Also for what it's worth her last tweet was from December 2016, so I don't think the twitter part of the story is that big of a deal, or at least as immediately tied to the story.



Her last tweet was 9 hours ago. She uses twitter every day, to talk about shit on Netflix, just like the rest of us.

Whilst I understand that winning it and losing it can be frustrating, more so than Sasha's comments on Sam Roberts show, look closer to home and I think you'll find the actual reason for the short runs lies in an episode of bring it to the table, where discussing the real life tension between Bliss and Sasha, Corey Graves said (and has mentioned again since) "Sasha Banks is her own worst enemy".

It's been hinted at A LOT on WWE TV that Sasha is not necessarily a popular figure backstage. Whether it's her attitude towards co-workers or airport stalkers; or a belief she's entitled to a lengthy title run- it seems she's rubbing people up the wrong way; and I think giving her the title only to snatch it away from her is just to remind her who's actually "the boss".

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posted on 9-20-2017 at 05:19 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Meanwhile, Sasha recently removed any references to the WWE on her Twitter account.


Noticed that, particularly her putting up her e-mail address for "business inquiries"...usually a practice of someone on his/her way out and looking for indie bookings.





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posted on 9-20-2017 at 07:22 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Her last tweet was 9 hours ago. She uses twitter every day, to talk about shit on Netflix, just like the rest of us.

Whilst I understand that winning it and losing it can be frustrating, more so than Sasha's comments on Sam Roberts show, look closer to home and I think you'll find the actual reason for the short runs lies in an episode of bring it to the table, where discussing the real life tension between Bliss and Sasha, Corey Graves said (and has mentioned again since) "Sasha Banks is her own worst enemy".

It's been hinted at A LOT on WWE TV that Sasha is not necessarily a popular figure backstage. Whether it's her attitude towards co-workers or airport stalkers; or a belief she's entitled to a lengthy title run- it seems she's rubbing people up the wrong way; and I think giving her the title only to snatch it away from her is just to remind her who's actually "the boss".


That in itself shows the value, or lack thereof, that WWE has for Sasha. There are plenty of entitled pricks in WWE that get what they want, so why doesn't she?

[Edited on 9-20-2017 by denverpunk]

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posted on 9-20-2017 at 10:32 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
My bad on the old tweets- I only saw the ones she "pinned", which were from 2016.

The business inquiries bit is older than this interview though.

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Isn't Sasha right in contention with Bayley as the top merch seller from the women's division? Sure, part of it management's own doing as they turned Charlotte to face to do jack shit with her so the only fellow babyface she's outperformed is Naomi.

However, even disregarding that, I don't think she's an easily replaceable solid hand. Bliss, Bayley, Nia, Becky, and Charlotte have all had their best matches with her. Sure between each other they'd had some solid stuff like Charlotte vs Becky but by far almost all the best women's matches in the last 3 years have been with Sasha.Bliss vs Bayley was forgettable and at times straight up bad,after two months of that Bliss works against Sasha and the matches are a lot better. This is just one example of Sasha'seemingly universal chemistry. She's pretty much the workhorse of the women's division, thrown in her ability to cut better promos than the other babyfaces and it paints a picture of Sasha being a valuable part of the division. Sure the company might not want to center it around her like they did with Charlotte and now with Bliss, but they've also haven't fed her to the wolves like they did with Bayley(decimated by Blis) and Becky(dropped down to enhancement talent).

At worst, I think they'll punish her with a temporary demotion before her overness and talent forces management to push her again just like AJ Lee and at best Sasha has added some anti-corporate cred to her name to prevent fan backlash if the company finally gets behind her as the top woman.

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posted on 9-21-2017 at 12:26 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
They're still trying to work things out with Paige, I'm pretty sure they can handle Sasha being a bit grouchy. If they part ways, it'll probably be her doing, not WWE's.





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posted on 9-21-2017 at 12:55 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Isn't Sasha right in contention with Bayley as the top merch seller from the women's division? Sure, part of it management's own doing as they turned Charlotte to face to do jack shit with her so the only fellow babyface she's outperformed is Naomi.

However, even disregarding that, I don't think she's an easily replaceable solid hand. Bliss, Bayley, Nia, Becky, and Charlotte have all had their best matches with her. Sure between each other they'd had some solid stuff like Charlotte vs Becky but by far almost all the best women's matches in the last 3 years have been with Sasha.Bliss vs Bayley was forgettable and at times straight up bad,after two months of that Bliss works against Sasha and the matches are a lot better. This is just one example of Sasha'seemingly universal chemistry. She's pretty much the workhorse of the women's division, thrown in her ability to cut better promos than the other babyfaces and it paints a picture of Sasha being a valuable part of the division. Sure the company might not want to center it around her like they did with Charlotte and now with Bliss, but they've also haven't fed her to the wolves like they did with Bayley(decimated by Blis) and Becky(dropped down to enhancement talent).

At worst, I think they'll punish her with a temporary demotion before her overness and talent forces management to push her again just like AJ Lee and at best Sasha has added some anti-corporate cred to her name to prevent fan backlash if the company finally gets behind her as the top woman.


Sasha's essentially now the CM Punk of the women's division in that she naturally drags the others to a great match, and ends up just like Punk too in being booked wrong because the powers-that-be just can't (or won't) bother to see the resource that they have in her.

Hopefully it's not a case of a couple of someones deciding that it's all because Sasha's too short/not white enough, not after the mental collapse they just had last night with Jinder's psycho-bigot promo on Nakamura. With the ridiculous reasons that become known about why Vince and Dunn do anything though I guess all options are possible when it comes to dissecting exactly why they do the things that they do.





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posted on 9-21-2017 at 04:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Sasha is pretty awesome and deserved way more than what she's gotten in terms of a title reign.

I can't blame her for being shitty.

As others have said, everyones best match has been with her.

She's a winner in more ways than one. I don't care if she has a shitty attitude. She's good at her job.

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Wanting to be left alone when you are in an airport doesn't mean you have a shitty attitude.

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Wanting to be left alone when you are in an airport doesn't mean you have a shitty attitude.

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It does if you work at the airline check-in counter.





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posted on 9-22-2017 at 11:37 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
* Paige is almost ready to return; she is working out at the Performance Centre and is rumoured to be going to Smackdown





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They're probably bringing her back as a face but man she'd do the roster so much good if she was immediately placed as the top heel. Carmella is fine but still has ways to go, Nattie is a competent bit player but doesn't have the charisma or in ring skills to be on top of the division, so Paige coming in to finally give a proper foil to face Charlotte would be great.
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posted on 9-24-2017 at 05:57 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
* Jeff Hardy suffered a shoulder injury on RAW this past Monday: it's not being reported as a serious injury and he could be out long-term after surgery





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