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posted on 3-1-2017 at 09:07 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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unless Gauthier can shift to the wing, Toronto is looking pretty deep up the middle now with Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Bozak, Kadri, and Boyle either playing up the middle full time, or eventually going to move there.



I hate people saying Nylander is a center...even more so Marner. Nylander at center takes away from his game, and honestly, he feels like the perfect fit to play long term with Matthews. People forget how hard it was to find a winger for Sundin, the Leafs should leave Nylander on the wing.

As for Marner...he wasn't right as a center for the Knights...I just don't see any reason to move him from the wing. Let him be him, pair him with a defensive center who can win faceoffs and chip in just enough offense and you have two lines for years and years to come.

As for the East wild card...

Does anybody really think there's no chance Price couldn't win 16 straight? I know that idea makes me vomit...but as bad as the Habs have been lately, they still have one of the top 5 guys in the league and he plays a position that can win a cup almost single handily.

I also think it depends on who finishes in the 2/3 spots for the Atlantic. If Boston stays on track and wins that matchup, they could be a grind to go against in round 2. Ottawa feels like the team most likely to go out quickly. Florida and Toronto have youth and a lot of inexperience (outside Jagr) but Lou or Freddy getting hot could be enough with all that talent up front.

Worst...yet somehow better...Reimer going HAM and leading the Panthers on a run.

Oh and biggest news of the day...Dan and Jay are coming back to TSN! If you are a Blue Jackets fan, this is the best news ever. Why?



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posted on 3-1-2017 at 09:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I was just going off what they (Marner, Nylander) were drafted as when I said "or eventually"... if one, or both can grow into a dominant centre fantastic, if they become great wingers that suits me fine as well... I'd rather a player not be forced into being a good or decent centre when their talents rest elsewhere, but at the same time at this young of an age for both players I'd rather not rule out anything either as both can develop a lot further.
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posted on 3-1-2017 at 11:18 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
DAN AND JAY ARE COMING BACK????

YES! YES! YES! YES!

Seriously, I'm that kind of nerd. I was hoping the Fox thing wouldn't work out (but only after J&D cashed the presumably large cheques), and they could come back to TSN. This is a happy day for me.





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Wow... Bob was horrible as a Flyer...





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posted on 3-3-2017 at 09:39 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Wow... Bob was horrible as a Flyer...


Aren't all goalies terrible as a Flyer? Like would Price be any good on that team? It really is where good goalie's go to die.

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Hextall was a pretty good Flyers goalie? And since then, um....

....

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Hextall was a pretty good Flyers goalie?


Hextall's best moment...


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I also enjoyed it when Hexy scored goals.

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Hextall's best moment...


Jesus that was a crazy game... like I remember the last several minutes just being a tonne of fights... plus, I do believe the Leafs actually won that contest against a much better Flyers team at the time.

ETA: Nope, looked it up and looks like they lost 3-1.

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posted on 3-20-2017 at 11:34 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
10ish games left, and Caps, Hawks, and Jackets have clinched the post season, and only Avalanche eliminated. What a season, Jackets have played 70+ games and they are still not being taken seriously by several hockey "experts".

Jackets play the Caps twice in the next two weeks, should go a long way to settling the President's Trophy, but the Pens are also lurking and play the Jackets one more time this season.





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posted on 3-22-2017 at 08:02 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Jackets are good...but they are streaky, and young. So yeah, lots of folks are going to think they are a step below the Caps and Pens. Caps have been solid for years, and the Pens have the best player in the game.

Game tonight should be a good one, and hopefully a full two points for Toronto. Things for you to watch for from Toronto are Zach Hyman forechecking, Nylander's shot, Marner's passing, and the PK. I'm assuming you know to watch for Matthews.

And something not to look forward to, but is starting to be a thing...the Islanders and will they move John Taveres. If they do...man will there be a lot of teams lining up. Something that will likely make this a thing from now until he signs a contract (or actually is traded) is people looking at what they'd want (NHL roster centre, 1st round pick, top quality prospects) and realizing major markets like Boston, Rangers, and Toronto could all probably give the Islanders something to seriously consider. Bozak, Kapanen, Leisic, and picks would be a lot for one season...but if JT is willing to sign an extension I think Toronto would through in another prospect (Bracco?).

A sleeper destination could be the Ducks if the Islanders just want young defense.

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I'm thinking July 1's biggest news is going to be the Islanders resigning Tavares to a long term deal... Unless Tavares is set on going elsewhere (he's still saying the right things about wanting to be an islander) there is no way the Islanders can have that hanging over their head for the last year of his contract, and to trade him for anything short of a new franchise player would probably be a bit of a coffin nail in the team in terms of keeping their fans happy.

There is a lot of talent in the Islanders system, but they need, and can probably afford to pay what Tavares would command.

If for some crazy reason Tavares does become available I wonder if Detroit would be a destination... New Arena... yeah they probably need an influx of talent via the draft and good trades, but Tavares would be still young enough to build around and Detroit has never been shy about spending. Plus, with Datsyuk off the books that's about $7m free for a team that had cap space anyway.

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posted on 4-9-2017 at 01:59 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
PLAYOFFS!!!
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posted on 4-9-2017 at 05:56 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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PLAYOFFS!!!

The bad part of that is down here in the States, we'll probably get tape-delayed of that series on CNBC (after Magic Bullet infomercials at 2:00am). Should be a good one!

Maybe Chi-Nash might be a good 1st rounder, but I don't see many enticing matchups though.





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Flames will be out in the first round again. They can't beat Anaheim to save their lives. I'm just hoping the Sharks beat the piss out of the Oilers so I don't have to listen to Edmonton fans go on and on and on about McDavid for more than a couple more weeks.





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posted on 4-10-2017 at 11:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Playoff brackets....
West
Ducks over Flames - 5
Sharks over Oilers - 7
Chicago over Preds - 5
Blues over Wild - 7

Ducks over Sharks - 6
Chicago over Blues - 7

Chicago over Ducks - 6

East
Leafs over Caps - 7
Jackets over Pens - 6 (so I can see the win from my seat in the arena)
Rangers over Habs - 7
Bruins over Sens - 7

Jackets over Leafs - 6
Rangers over Bruins - 6

Jackets over Rangers - 5


Stanley Cup Final
Chicago over Jackets - 5





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I don't see many enticing matchups though.


I think that has more to do with no Battle of Alberta, no Battle of Ontario, no California clash, and no Crosby vs Ovie. There was a lot of possible killer 1st round match up that we missed out on. That being said...

An original 6 match with Price vs King Henrik?

McDavid vs the Beards of California?

Nashville trying to finally defeat Chicago?

Not bad.

Also...if it was any other team but the Leafs, how many people would be jumping on their bandwagon? Top 10 PP. Top 10 PK. Head coach who has won before. Can roll 3 lines that can score? Good goaltending? I'm not saying they are the favourite...but if I'm Washington, I'd have rather played New York over Toronto. I think that series could be really good. It could kill me...but hey, those are the risks you take as a Leafs fan.

Oh and here's what I thought would happen:

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Atlantic = Tampa
Metro = Pittsburgh

Pacific = LA
Central = Chicago

Playoffs

Pens over Tampa
Nashville over Calgary

Pens over Nashville

Hart = Crosby
Art Ross McDavid
Norris = Suban
Calder = AUSTON MATTHEWS

Extra Prediction = Wings miss playoffs, Habs trade their captain, Columbus fires Trots in November and instantly goes on a winning streak.



Got the Art Ross and Calder right, Hart...maybe? Wings did miss, and while Columbus kept their coach, I was right about the winning streak.

Predictions:

Montreal over NYR in 6...Price is too good, and Montreals PP should supply enough offense.
Boston over Ottawa in 6...Ottawa played way above their roster this year. Good for them, but I can't see them winning this series

Toronto over Washington in 7...because oddly the Caps have worst playoff demons than the Leafs. I also think Babcock can win the coaching battle, Kadri's line can neutralize Ovie as much as you can, and Matthews / Marner / Nylander are something special.
Pens over Blue Jackets in 5...Jackets could get goal great goaltending and pull off the upset, but man has Crosby been locked in this year.


Boston over Montreal in 7....Playoff Bergeron is scary good.
Pens over Leafs in 6*...honestly, this will be Pens in 6 regardless of Toronto or Washington making it here.

Pens over Bruins in 6...this could be a sweep. Kessel will go off in this series making Bergeron's performance against Crosby be for naught.


Chicago over Nashville in 4...Nashville seems like a team that needs to rebuild on the fly, and I'm not sure PK will thrive in this series.
Minnesota over St Louis in 6...the Wild have the better goalie, although I'm not that sure of this pick. Just can't see this going 7 though, so if St Louis does win, I still think it's in 6.

Ducks over Flames in 7...one of Tkachuk or Perry gets suspended in this series. Could be ugly in the best way.
Edmonton over San Jose in 6...McDavid is that good.

Hawks over Wild in 6...again, this series could be much shorter
Oilers over Ducks in 5...Anaheim will just be too old and beaten up at this point.

Hawks over Oilers in 7...McDavid is good. Toews and company are just a little bit better.


Pittsburgh over Chicago in 7...Crosby vs Toews? For the cup? The NHL doesn't deserve that after the Olympic crap (should have announced it before the season), but this could be an all time great.

*if the Leafs beat the Pens, the Hawks will beat the Leafs in 5 for the Cup. It will suck.

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As a Canadian, and nominally an Ottawa Senators fan, I think it's stupid that everybody is clamoring for canadian teams to play against each other in the first round. Statistically speaking, that reduces the odds of the cup actually coming back to Canadia for the first time in for-fucking-ever.

"Derp! Let's have ~50% of the canadian teams eliminated in the first round!" is not really that great an idea, no matter how much "the battle of [insert province here]" means to the local pissing-contests.

Plus, if two canadian teams are playing in the same series, that means 2 less canadian teams will get exposure to the US audience. Facing the reality, and whether we like it or not, it matters to Commisionner Bettman when the league gets ratings in the states. Even Americans hate the Maple Leafs, and should have the opportunity to watch them get swept out of the first round by the Capitals (I think?).

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Hey there, hockey fans. Beer Money Podcast has a bracket challenge set up on NHL.com:

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Let's do this.





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I like the Ducks, and they've got a great one-two punch up the middle and some good depth... the Flames have a lot of pieces I like, but I think they still need something more... Ducks in 5.

Sharks and Oilers... this will probably be a series that the Oilers can point back at over the next few years when their getting into the playoffs is a bit more of a regular thing and say they learned a lot from... Still, the Sharks just seem to have a way of never getting it done in the playoffs even if they do go deep... Let's say Sharks in 6.

Blackhawks and Predators.... hhhhmm, tough one... I want to give it to the Hawks, but this is one that strikes me as a potential early ousting for them just because the Predators are intriguing... Predators in 6.

The Blues seemed poised to make a run for the cup a few years ago, and are well built, but I think the Wild oust them early... won't be a sweep, let's say 6 again.

Meanwhile, over in the East....

Caps are a funny team, like Boston the first round seems like it might be their major Achilles heel, thus anything could happen... The Caps are a bit grittier, and boast the deeper D-line, but the Leafs roll more forward lines... Odds are the Caps triumph, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Leafs can hold on either... let's say 6 for the Caps.

The Sen's just don't quite seem like they belong, but have a lot of good stuff in every position so it'd be hard to completely rule them out taking on a not usually very good in the first round Boston... I'm going to say that Ottawa takes this one in 5.

Montréal seems due... a talented goalie could carry you through the playoffs, or at least deep so they have that going for them... they've always had speed, and in recent years have added a bit more sandpaper to their line up... Montréal is my cup pick, so I gotta put them over the Rangers... let's say a sweep here, or at least 5.

Tough call on Jackets and Pens... Crosby is a phenom, and the Pens are a very good team, but that win streak by the Jackets and their record this year is hard to ignore.. Let's call this one an upset as the Blue Jackets could really be mobilized by their fans.... 6.

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Double overtime victory on a beauty from the 4th line. With 5 defensemen for most of the game. Damn.
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Double overtime victory on a beauty from the 4th line. With 5 defensemen for most of the game. Damn.


The Caps gotta be like Creed's trainer: THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S A SHOW, THEY THINK IT'S A DAMN FIGHT!





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Leafs are now 2-0 with Dart Guy in the stands.


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Let's start a discussion, what team in the history of the NHL had the best 3v3 lineup?

Gretzky-Kurri-Coffey? Your only hope would be to control the opening faceoff.





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That's definitely an all time great 3 player combo... maybe Oates, Hull, and McInnis? The 91 penguins could boast a few great line combos, but Coffey, Lemieux and Jagr were pretty good together. The Legion of Doom could check the crap out of you and score, so maybe some honourable mention for them?
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