janerd75
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New S.H.I.E.L.D. Order. #Renee'sAllExpensesPaidVacationToPoundtown.
#Denial
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OORick
Intellectual Savior of the Masses 
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For the kids at home who want to be wrestlers: that turnbuckle-bomb-into-insta-superman-punch spot was all kinds of Ricochet/Ospreay levels of
fucktarded and you should not desire to emulate it, and yet, at the very same time, that spear-into-Pedigree spot was all kinds of OMG That Is
Awesome.
They are both equally plausible "real life" moves, and yet somehow, they are massively different this one very important way. One is good pro
wrestling; the other is not.
Also, holy shit, Dean Ambrose is the WWE Champion after that outstanding match and 20 minute over-run. Clearly, after WWE's audience for
"PPVs" fell under 10% for WM32, they've decided it's OK to openly antagonize that small percentage of the audience (and issue refunds,
if necessary), and just make use of the freedoms the Network offers. I'm cool with that, although imagine how much tighter the overall show
would have been if you just told Ziggler/Corbin and Crews/Sheamus to go screw, instead of boring the hell out of us?
Or do we give WWE credit for changing plans after we found out about Game 7, and they made sure the main event would play out without competition?
Two quick notions:
This obviously sets up for the much-anticipated Shield 3-way feud. But less obvious is that you could use it to do a sneaky double turn with Rollins
and Reigns, as Rollins has a legit case for being a 2-time champ who STILL hasn't been defeated. [Sidebar: someone should tell JBL that the word
for that is "lineal," not "linear." It's a real thing in boxing and fighting, and I'd be fine with bringing the concept to wrestling,
but only if he uses the real term.] Meantime, everybody still hates Roman. PLUS, jesus christ, now that you have the real 3-way Shield Feud, you MUST
give Reigns the makeover so he's not still using the Shield Music and dressing in his Shield Outfit. More than ever, that just makes him look
like the schmuck who still thinks high school was the best time of his life (also, there can not ever be a Shield Reunion until after that music has
been retired). So let's just do the thing where Rollins/Authority have a falling out, and Reigns/Authority slowly happens, all while
they're fighting to get Ambrose's title.
Who beat Ambrose in unsatisfyingly swift fashion at WM32, and could be expected to do so in a rematch? Yeah, THAT guy. Whatever happens on July 9,
he's back in WWE at SummerSlam, and there's no way we don't split the World Title on or around September 1.
Good times....
Rick
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
Meantime, everybody still hates Roman. PLUS, jesus christ, now that you have the real 3-way Shield Feud, you MUST give Reigns the makeover so
he's not still using the Shield Music and dressing in his Shield Outfit.
Yeah, something definitely needs to be done with Roman at this point. The guy just lost clean to Seth Rollins, thus legitimizing Rollins' claim
that he was the rightful WWE champion, so I just don't see how you continue the course of Roman being THE guy when clearly he's not.
Though since this is the WWE we're talking about, that's probably what they'll do.
Either way, the tables being turned with Dean as the champion and Roman not should be interesting tomorrow.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni 
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Nicely done Ambrose! Too bad Mitch never lived to see this day.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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First 9
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Holyshit, this one is going into the record books. One of the greates stables of all time breaks up in 2014 and two years later for around ten minutes
they were ALL World Champion. Even if the nWo can't boast that sort of insanity.I'm so fucking stocked, my favorite current guy is the
man! I haven't had that since CM Punk.
The Shield Triple Threat is going to be insane!
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Last three to four years:
- Punk champ
- Bryan champ
- all three Shield guys champ
Not much ammo remaining for any real hater to say they're burying the newer guys anymore in favour of Hunter's workout buddies.
Not understanding right now the benefit of a Nattie heel turn, unless it's to give Becky someone to fight while Sasha re-appears for the feud to
build up against Charlotte. Not sure what Paige did to fall down the ranks so quickly either, unless it's something to do with that concussion
she took or if it's a short period of punishment for being a bit of a brat (getting tossed out of the restaurant with Alicia, the twitter beef
with Lana, getting cussed out backstage by Road Dawg, etc.). It's about the most precipitous fall down the ranks for a former champion since
they took the belt off of Ziggler and shoved him back into the midcard.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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Gobshite
The Great One 
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When Ambrose won, the first thing I thought about was if there's any been a point in time before when every single member of a group has been
world champion on the same day. I couldn't think of any, so another SHIELD history making moment.
I do however, think this will quite possibly be Ambrose's only ever title run. I'm guessing they're going to use the Shield triple
threat to main event Summerslam, not Battleground, so it'll be interesting to see what they do at the next PPV...
Reigns is also a 3 time world champion now, and just hasn't caught on the way many have wanted him to... I think it should be a while before he
gets another run. Maybe wait a year, see how he handles the upper mid card, maybe go full heel for a year... pretty please.
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GodEatGod
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This does seem to genuinely be a good opportunity to turn Reigns properly heel by snapping on Ambrose.
I don't think it's going to be Dean's only title win by a longshot, but it was a great one and, honestly, Dean Ambrose is also my
favorite wrestler so I'm pretty stoked to have my guy on top.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Toano
ButtViper
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I don't care if Ambrose holds the belt past Summerslam, and he is my favorite active wrestler in WWE. But if this is the start of the return of
plausible unpredictability back into the WWE, they may keep me as an active subscriber.
Long story short, they have been doing a lot of things well, with less scriperting and more and newer (to the brand) talent. And the writing for a lot
of the folks like AJ Styles has been consistent and entertaining. But the sizzle that Daniel Bryan or Brock Lesnar was bringing, even if by accident
or dumb luck, that sizzle that believable surprises get you, have been missing alot in the "injury" era. Hopefully the NXT Call up/Style/KO/Brand
Split Era can keep it up.
(PS: I don't mean stupid swerves out of nowhere. I mean legitimately believable Suprises. Taker losing to Lesnar. Punk Pipebombs. Bryan's
99%erish revolution, Rollin's MITB Cash in)
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Quentil
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I am sort of happy they had a string of boring matches in a row. Because my friends and I actually hooked up a second tv next to the main one so we
could watch game 7 of the NBA finals and MITB at the same time. And frankly, if there was something better on the ppv at that time, we'd still
have watched game 7. I almost think WWE timed it that way on purpose.
Btw, for those into basketball, it was a great game. But yeah, for those into wrestling, outside of one boring stretch (not outright bad, just kinda
boring), the PPV was great as well. I'd give it a solid 4 out of 5 on the imaginary scale that doesn't matter. The ending, while
predictable, was still awesome. Dean Ambrose <3
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TexShark300
The Rowdy One 
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
....., that spear-into-Pedigree spot was all kinds of OMG That Is Awesome.
I am as excited about Ambrose winning as anyone, but I hate that they used that spot to get us there. That was a fantastic move/counter that required
PERFECT timing and they freaking NAILED it. That should be the replay we see over and over for weeks to come, but instead, the one replay we will get
is the cash in.
And Seth/Roman was a great match. Not good, GREAT. If there was a drawback to it, it was that Seth looked a little sloppy in the beginning. It told a
great story, Roman seemed to really eat up the crowd reactions and use that as fuel. As much as it isn't cool to like RR, he has really turned
into a very good in ring wrestler. He doesn't wrestle the more popular exciting flippy cruiser style, and he isn't on the "Carry a
broomstick" level yet, but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the job done.
OOWF Historian
Life is about choices. You can choose to have a Good Attitude or you can choose to have a Bad Attitude.
- Msgt Hal D. Aaron
1953-2007
House watches TNA. He goes bowling. I Knew I liked that show for a reason.
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nOOb
The Man 
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I would imagine that the fact this has a whopping two pages the day after probably would reflect how many people overall actually watched last night.
Unfortunate but going up against Game 7 of the NBA finals and an epic episode of Game of Thrones didn't really bode well for it.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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bigfatgoalie
The Man 
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quote:
Originally posted by nOOb
I would imagine that the fact this has a whopping two pages the day after probably would reflect how many people overall actually watched last night.
Unfortunate but going up against Game 7 of the NBA finals and an epic episode of Game of Thrones didn't really bode well for it.
That plus there isn't a lot to bitch about.
Most folks don't post "that was good" type posts. It's more "FUCK YOU WWE!" and the counter of "no, fuck you...the WWE didn't
fuck up that badly" that drives mult-page threads.
For the record...I watched game 7, hence not much to say on Ambrose's victory other than it's good to see him get the belt.
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lz4005
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod I'm pretty stoked to have my guy on top.
So is Renee.
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merc
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quote:
Originally posted by lz4005
quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod I'm pretty stoked to have my guy on top.
So is Renee.
And there is our post of the day
They are called "letters" when put together they make "words". Words make moving photos unnecessary.
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Flash
The Rowdy One
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My only complaint about the close of the show was that we got a few reaction shots from Rollins, but I think a couple "what the hell just happened"
type looks from Reigns would have added to some of the intrigue for tonight.
Question is, with Battleground standing between a Shield triple threat and Summer Slam, how do they save one of the best- must see matches
they've had in a long time for their second biggest show without it being a repeat.... I mean there are ways, but curious to see how the WWE
navigates this.
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ulsterphil
And I am AWESOME
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The easiest way is probably to go with vanilla Ambrose vs Rollins rematch that ends with Reigns causing a shenanigans finish in order to put himself
in the mix leading to triple threat at SS.
Or do they blow their wad early and use the triple threat at BG and move on to bigger and Brocker things.
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janerd75
The Rowdy One
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quote:
Originally posted by ulsterphil
The easiest way is probably to go with vanilla Ambrose vs Rollins rematch that ends with Reigns causing a shenanigans finish in order to put himself
in the mix leading to triple threat at SS.
Or do they blow their wad early and use the triple threat at BG and move on to bigger and Brocker things.
I think with the brand split, Smackdown going live on July 19th, and Battleground on July 24th, they do the SHILED 3-way sooner rather than later
simply for the hype shitstorm with all that stuff coinciding.
Simply have a Rollins vs. Ambrose rematch on Raw disrupted by Reigns and whoomp there it is. But for god's sake give Reigns new music and have
him go full heel now so he can put ReBOOOO to use. He's still got that negative stank on him now but without the benefit and
'protection' of holding the title. I've been impressed with his ring and mic work lately so I hope he doesn't get tossed aside
after all the shit that's gone down with him the last two years.
As for Summerslam, given what we saw with Rollins and Reigns I wouldn't mind seeing those two go at it one-on-one agayn. Deano and Bork can make
up for their milquetoast WM outing with a rematch for the title there.
Dunno if it would be too soon, but would a SHIELD reunion work to rescue Dean if he was getting mauled by Bzzzark? The next night their promo could
essentially be, "Yeah, brothers fight but no one beats up my brother but me" or somesuch?
#Denial
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DKBroiler
SpeciASSl CUMedian 
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quote:
Originally posted by ulsterphil
The easiest way is probably to go with vanilla Ambrose vs Rollins rematch that ends with Reigns causing a shenanigans finish in order to put himself
in the mix leading to triple threat at SS.
Or do they blow their wad early and use the triple threat at BG and move on to bigger and Brocker things.
They can always ramp up another triple threat down the line by making the later one in a Hell in a Cell. They could also move Brock onto something
else. He doesn't have to instantly get back into the title picture.
Get off my lawn.
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punkerhardcore
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It's not hard to turn Reigns heel, because he absolutely was a heel last night. And I'm not talking about the fact that he got the
shit booed out of him as per usual. The way he was bullying Rollins in the corner over and over with taunting little moves... the way he made some
douchey hand gesture to the crowd with his tongue wagging screaming to the crowd "Who sucks now?" Those were all the mannerisms of a straight up
heel.
Now do Vince and the higher ups-- or even Roman himself-- feel that he was acting like a heel? Who knows... based on how the dude has been pushed and
booked for two years, probably not.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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DKBroiler
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
It's not hard to turn Reigns heel, because he absolutely was a heel last night. And I'm not talking about the fact that he got the
shit booed out of him as per usual. The way he was bullying Rollins in the corner over and over with taunting little moves... the way he made some
douchey hand gesture to the crowd with his tongue wagging screaming to the crowd "Who sucks now?" Those were all the mannerisms of a straight up
heel.
Now do Vince and the higher ups-- or even Roman himself-- feel that he was acting like a heel? Who knows... based on how the dude has been pushed and
booked for two years, probably not.
Grain of salt here because I couldn't watch the main event last night, but I can't see why anyone would have to turn at all here. Ambrose
is the face, Rollins is the heel and ReBoo is the tweener. Even if ReBoo goes full heel and Rollins is the tweener no need to heel up Ambrose.
I've seen that suggested in a few various places online today. Seems like a bad use of Ambrose to have him do anything but soak up cheers at
this point. They only have like a half a dozen good guys at this point any way.
Get off my lawn.
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SpiNNeR72
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That shot of Reigns as Ambrose was celebrating was fantastic. The fact they didnt show him coming in to congratulate Ambrose was also good. Now just
make Ambrose and Rollins the focus and let Roman carry on having good matches, THAT will get him over.
I kinda want to see what WWE was thinking with the filler matches, resting the crowd and all that, but why we got Ziggler/Corbin again (with nothing
new, unlike that first good performance from Crews) when we could have had the equally pointless but much more satisfying Golden Truth win is beyond
me.
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DKBroiler
SpeciASSl CUMedian
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Originally posted by SpiNNeR72
That shot of Reigns as Ambrose was celebrating was fantastic. The fact they didnt show him coming in to congratulate Ambrose was also good. Now just
make Ambrose and Rollins the focus and let Roman carry on having good matches, THAT will get him over.
I kinda want to see what WWE was thinking with the filler matches, resting the crowd and all that, but why we got Ziggler/Corbin again (with nothing
new, unlike that first good performance from Crews) when we could have had the equally pointless but much more satisfying Golden Truth win is beyond
me.
I gotta think they thought it was the only way they were gonna keep viewers. Looks like that was the most viewed basketball game in 18 years and
GoT's episode was arguably it's best ever. Just an insane level of competition for 18 to 35 year old males.
If this was still the PPV era Vince probably would have cried at the buyrate. Instead he's probably laughing and lighting a victory cigar about
already having our money.
Get off my lawn.
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gobbledygooker
Sister Act 2
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
It's not hard to turn Reigns heel, because he absolutely was a heel last night. And I'm not talking about the fact that he got the
shit booed out of him as per usual. The way he was bullying Rollins in the corner over and over with taunting little moves... the way he made some
douchey hand gesture to the crowd with his tongue wagging screaming to the crowd "Who sucks now?" Those were all the mannerisms of a straight up
heel.
Now do Vince and the higher ups-- or even Roman himself-- feel that he was acting like a heel? Who knows... based on how the dude has been pushed and
booked for two years, probably not.
Before the insanity that got us to the finale of Ambrose-as-champ, I was really wondering if they were going to do the double-turn (which I think
would have been a roaring success if they had gone that route, a la Austin/Hart at WrestleMania 13). I was even wondering if, after Rollins won the
title and was having his moment with it, Reigns would get back in and destroy him post-match to massive boos and a newly-minted heel/face dynamic
between the two going forward. Then, of course, AMBROSE.
Still, even though Rollins is my favorite of the three, I am quite happy with freakin' Ambrose holding the title. And depending on how they
play it, you could really go with face Ambrose, tweener Rollins, and heel Reigns. Though we'll probably get face Ambrose, face(in theory?)
Reigns, and heel(in theory?) Rollins, at least to start.
[Edited on 6-20-2016 by gobbledygooker]
"Hulk Hogan have the sex with some dumb bitch on the TV. The girl smart if she make the $$ from his bald ass but she also desperate to have sex with
the howdy doody like Hulk Hogan. He worse than Mel Gibson and I think now %10000 he prove he have grasshopper dick and raisin balls." - The Iron
Sheik
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merc
Showstopper
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Originally posted by Flash
Question is, with Battleground standing between a Shield triple threat and Summer Slam, how do they save one of the best- must see matches
they've had in a long time for their second biggest show without it being a repeat.... I mean there are ways, but curious to see how the WWE
navigates this.
Bidness has changed if yew wheel..
I'm not sure there is a second biggest show anymore. WWE gets 30 day free subscribers for a "wrestlemania quality" ME. Now the goal is to
keep those folks from cancelling.
I think the PPV dynamic has completely gone away 11:20 as proof. So folks aren't saving up for 1,2 or 4 PPVS. Now the hardest month is the
first paying month.
[Edited on 6-20-2016 by merc]
They are called "letters" when put together they make "words". Words make moving photos unnecessary.
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