royberto
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| posted on 6-23-2016 at 07:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
From 411:
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UPDATE: According to Forbes (via wrestlezone.com), WWE has reportedly contacted Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio and Goldberg. They say
that WWE would like to use Angle on Smackdown, and possibly team him with NXT tag team American Alpha. WWE is also reportedly interested in ringing
back Carlito, John Morrison, JTG, Shad Gaspard and Shelton Benjamin.
ORIGINAL: Dave Meltzer posted on Twitter that WWE is contacting “lots of 40+-year-old guys” to help fill up the WWE’s roster the upcoming return of
the brand split to the company.
Adding to this, Kurt Angle himself confirmed that HHH was in contact with him. Also it is confirmed
that WWE has talked with MVP, Carlito, and Stevie Richards as well:
http://411mania.com/wrestling/more-details-on-kurt-angle-talking-with-wwe/
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williamssl
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I know we're dealing with rumors, but since the brand split has its own thread, can we use that to, you know, talk about the brand split?
The ppv schedule and names, and the people potentially coming back, are being discussed in both.
[Edited on 6-23-2016 by williamssl]
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Count Zero
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| posted on 6-23-2016 at 11:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
* word is that CM Punk's UFC debut will be pushed back again from UFC 202 in August to UFC 203 in September
This was just announced
during a "sports update break" segment on Sportsnet East/West/North/South/Omega/B-Team, so I guess that makes it an official news release now?
I'm sure it has one of those Card Subject To Change disclaimers, but that's where we stand for now.
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Flash
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Brock has done enough legit stuff, up to and including holding the UFC title, that win or lose at UFC 200 I think he'll still be held up as
someone who could survive "in a real fight", and a legit bad ass (I'm sure there will be some comments if he loses none the less)... but I
wonder if Punk now having to fight on the heels of Brock winning or losing raises the stakes a bit for him and the perception of wrestlers as legit
tough guys.
I mean the general consensus has been that Punk is probably going to get his butt kicked, but to now have a date locked* in, and for it to be so close
on the heels of Lesnar coming back it just feels a bit more perilous for Punk now**
*Well as locked in as what, the third or fourth reschedule can be....
** I'm sure this is exactly what Punk wants, to be underestimated, and doesn't give a shit what others think.
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jmble
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| posted on 6-24-2016 at 03:23 PM |
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Not sure if this is worthy of a new topic, so I'll just post it here in case anyone is interested.
Talk is Jericho just put up a Podcast with Sandra Toffoloni who is the sister of Nancy Benoit and it's all about the Benoit tragedy.
I haven't listened yet, so I can't comment on the quality of the discussion, but it should be an interesting listen.
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Sam Is Neat
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| posted on 6-24-2016 at 07:22 PM |
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Read somewhere that WWE officials confirmed that Kurt Angle WILL NOT be coming back.
Might have been 411.
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ulsterphil
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| posted on 6-24-2016 at 11:29 PM |
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Thats a damn shame if true, Angles return would have been great to coincide with the Olympics in a few months.
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Chris Is Good517
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 12:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam Is Neat
Read somewhere that WWE officials confirmed that Kurt Angle WILL NOT be coming back.
Might have been 411.
Tough to say, really.
On the one hand, Angle is kinda known for playing fast and loose with the truth. So just because he claims that they were in conversations
doesn't make it necessarily true.
On the other hand, if WWE does want to bring him in and make his return a huge surprise moment that blows the roof off a building, then of course
they're not going to show their hand. They should deny it. A Kurt Angle return on a live show is one of the last remaining true "HOLY
SHIT!" moments they've got left right now. Advertising it in advance would be ludicrous.
Monday Night Flaw, a podcast about professional wrestling starring OO's own
Figure Foreskin as Andy the Smarmy Host and Chris Is Good517 as Cousin Balki.
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CM Crunk
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 12:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
quote:
Originally posted by Sam Is Neat
Read somewhere that WWE officials confirmed that Kurt Angle WILL NOT be coming back.
Might have been 411.
Tough to say, really.
On the one hand, Angle is kinda known for playing fast and loose with the truth. So just because he claims that they were in conversations
doesn't make it necessarily true.
On the other hand, if WWE does want to bring him in and make his return a huge surprise moment that blows the roof off a building, then of course
they're not going to show their hand. They should deny it. A Kurt Angle return on a live show is one of the last remaining true "HOLY
SHIT!" moments they've got left right now. Advertising it in advance would be ludicrous.
Totally agree on both points. I've wanted Angle back for years. Initially I understood his departure from WWE because of the strain he was
living under physically and mentally, so I was really disheartened when he almost immediately jumped over to TNA. In the years that have passed since
then I've barely kept up with TNA so I can't speak with any real authority regarding his current state in-ring or on the mic. What I do
know is that the rollercoaster he was on prior to leaving WWE hasn't really let up and that concerns me if they're *ahem* angling for him
to make an in-ring return. I have to imagine he would have just BARELY passed the current physical for performers if he were in the same shape he was
back when he left. Now? I don't know of that's possible unless there is some sort of loophole pertaining to "special attraction" style
contracts or whatever...
Could he come back in a managerial, or GM-style role? Hell yeah he could. One thing that Kurt always had in spades was personality (on top of his
freakish in-ring ability.) But once again, I'm not familiar with his current body of work to be able to say that that would be a proper role for
him either. With all the abuse this guys put himself through over the years I can't help but wonder if he'd be the same guy on the stick.
I liken it to Ric Flair who we can all mostly agree is a borderline trainwreck these days but once was one of if not THE best all-around performers in
the history of the business. You don't have to look back any further than his run as GM during the first draft to see that he still was managing
to keep it all together and do competent work. He still had his faculties about him. Granted he's at a more advanced age than Angle but this
business can do bad things to a performers mind if they're allowed to go full-tilt for so long without anyone to rein them in. And Angle
hasn't had a whole lot of people telling him "no you shouldn't do that" since making the move to TNA.
Maybe I'm overthinking this. But I think some of my concerns are valid. I'd love to see Angle back in the fold and be properly
acknowledged for the stellar work that he put in (even if it's only for the years that "count" in Vince's eyes) but I don't want
to see him come back and taint his legacy or flame out in a brushfire of wellness violations and other random weirdness. I think at the very least he
needs to comeback under a Legends contract and accept his rightful place in the Hall of Fame. If he isn't reliable enough at this point to be a
regularly featured performer on TV I think he would be an excellent addition to the coaching staff at the Performance Center.
#Kurmain
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ulsterphil
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The way i see it, Angle is too good a talent to not use on TV in some capacity.
If (and its a big if now that Reigns' suspension has probably changed plans) Cena was to head up the Smackdown roster it would have been perfect
sense to bring in Angle as GM of the show under the premise that he will bring in new talent to try and get rid of Cena in a long callback to
Cena's debut against Angle under the ruthless aggression phase.
You get some good to great promo work from Cena and Angle and then call ups and rubs to some NXT guys. American Alpha, im looking at you.
[Edited on 6-25-2016 by ulsterphil]
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GodEatGod
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I would imagine the difficulty would be in terms of value. Kurt would probably want a big money deal, something similar to what, say, Sting got at the
very least, maybe even more. And I'm not sure WWE would be willing to give him that, especially if they want to use him simply as a
figurehead/manager and not as an active wrestler. I'm not sure Angle could pass a WWE physical to be an in-ring competitor, given his neck
issues alone.
I'd like to see him back, too, for a myriad of reasons, but I just wouldn't hold my breath.
To me, and I know he's involved in something ludicrous right now in TNA, Jeff Hardy's probably the big get. The crowd really would go nuts
for him and there's a ton of guys for him to work with. As goofy as he seems, all indications are that he's been clean and sober for a few
years now and he's said he wants to come back to WWE.
Matt, however, can stay home.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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nOOb
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 04:13 PM |
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You know, judging from how motivated RVD was for the first run in his post-TNA career, I don't think I'd mind two-three months of Matt
Hardy, too. Granted, two of those months would have to be in a WWE Hardy Boys reunion and one as the Sensei of Mattitude passing on his art to a new
student, but it does look like a few of these ex-WWE guys coming from TNA actually show up motivated for a brief bit until they decide to get fat
again.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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Flash
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 06:21 PM |
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It might not be a huge deal, but I'm sure "WWE star's brother found guilty of murder" is a headline they might want to avoid with
Angle... Who's brother just plead guilty to murdering his wife... So maybe they are waiting for the sentencing part to be over?
Be it Angle, the Hardy's, or Goldberg, I'm cool with them bring any of them back; provided it's in the right situation, and if they
are used in a way that adds something to the program.... Rey Mysterio coming back and doing 10 matches with the same tired 619 set up and finish is
not what I'm looking for... a Rumble spot, a small tag run, whatever... can all be fun.
Like I wrote in the brand split thread; I don't think it's the former "A" or even necessarily "B" guys they need... it's guys
who can fill those five minute matches... start using the guys you already have in a meaningful way. Is Zack Ryder your next world champ? No, but he
could probably hold down 10 minutes a week for you... 3,4, or 6 months from now if you see that you've got holes in your roster and some guys
who have now been given a chance don't pan out then you can plug those holes with some former upper mid-card guys... who if you play your cards
right and show Steph' and Shane bidding over them a bit, would make them seem like that much more of a big deal (although I totally agree that
if you get a guy like Angle he should be a surprise walk on during a live show)
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CM Crunk
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 09:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Flash
It might not be a huge deal, but I'm sure "WWE star's brother found guilty of murder" is a headline they might want to avoid with
Angle...
Hey! Don't forget Dolph Ziggler! Who do you
think you are? WWE creative?
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Chris Is Good517
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Potential NXT spoilers for the next 2-3 weeks, beware
Sounds as though American Alpha and Finn Balor were both "written off" at the NXT tapings last night, so their involvement with the 7/19 live
Smackdown draft is probably as imminent as we all already assumed it was.
Monday Night Flaw, a podcast about professional wrestling starring OO's own
Figure Foreskin as Andy the Smarmy Host and Chris Is Good517 as Cousin Balki.
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CM Crunk
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| posted on 6-25-2016 at 11:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Potential NXT spoilers for the next 2-3 weeks, beware
Sounds as though American Alpha and Finn Balor were both "written off" at the NXT tapings last night, so their involvement with the 7/19 live
Smackdown draft is probably as imminent as we all already assumed it was.
Welp. So much for my avoiding NXT results as I get caught up. I suppose I can't complain though, I mean it's not like we have a
section of the board dedicated to spoilers. Pity, that.
ETA:  But seriously I wish there was a bbcode for spoilers, potential and confirmed alike.
[Edited on 6/25/2016 by CM Crunk]
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