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posted on 3-31-2016 at 05:20 AM Edit Post
Rumor Crap 2016, Pt. 2

Old thread hit 1000 replies, at which point it runs the risk of tasking the database, depending on how many posts-per-page people are using.... ergo, the tradition continues, and we start a fresh thread!

As I recall, the last on-topic matters discussed in the old thread had to do with:

  • Luke Harper's knee surgery took place late last week. Gone for several months.

  • WWE has a major debut and/or return set for WM or RAW, according to the lesser rumormongers. That said, *I* -- as a more reliable rumor purveyor -- have had Cesaro's and Titus' names in my ear more than once in the past week, as babyface fodder for the Andre Battle Royale (which is still likely to be Abe Frohman's domain), neither of which is "major." Neither is Cena or Orton, those two are both just guys who everybody knows isn't getting a real job at this point. Neither is the Bullet Club or Bayley, those are just talents who are already under contract who everybody knows could show up so they aren't really "debuts." Linda McMahon did just do an interview saying she's 100% behind Hulk Hogan, though (she also thinks Trump is a perfectly sane candidate for president). *plonk*

  • Roode and Young both done with TNA and in talks with WWE to be NXT touring talents. Young would have an outside shot at cracking the WWE roster, just because he's got that weird Bryan-meets-Sandow thing where's he's move talented than most and more dedicated than ALL to get any ludicrous bullshit over. Sadly, I didn't realize how old Roode is. Every since the first day he was on TNA, he *looked* like a WWE guy, but he wasn't very good to start. Then he got good, and had a window where he could have been a serious WWE project, but now, he's just a 40 year old guy whose best bet is playing the AJ Styles' "Yes, I'm old, but because of where I worked, I have a low-mileage body" card.

  • WWE quietly switched the Andre Battle Royale and the Total Divas Multi. The Battle Royale is now on the main card, the divas thing is on the pre-show (with the Usos/Dudleys).

  • Good chance WWE retires the butterfly/vagina belt, and returns the Women's Title belt on Monday's RAW. Narratively speaking, this would lead me to suspect a Charlotte win, as she and Ric have the gravitas to make that switch. But who knows?

  • Tonight's NXT wasn't all that good, but Baron Corbin proved that while he may not be very talented, he *IS* one of "us," when he based an entire promo on the concept of "Lonely Virgil" (and how he hopes Aries enjoys his one major arena show, before going back to high school gyms and auto dealerships where he and Virgil can keep each other company). It's the best thing Corbin has ever done. That said, the bar was remarkably low.




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posted on 3-31-2016 at 08:08 AM Edit Post
Soooo, what's the chances of Steph claiming the new Woman's Championship as her idea and making the presentation?

After all, as we all know she did start the Diva's Revolution.

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posted on 3-31-2016 at 10:40 AM Edit Post
The women's belt change rumor ties nicely to a Shane win. -not really but don't use logic-

As new leader of Raw, imma make sum changes startin with dis joke of a belt...

Lay some money on Shane-o-mac... Assuming you trust The Rick's sources.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 01:06 PM Edit Post
Tons of Wrestlemania rumor crap:

* Cageside Seats is reporting that Strowman may no longer be in line to win the Andre Battle Royal. His planned main event match with Brock is now off the books as well. Word is that Vince loves his size, but thinks his face doesn't look intimidating enough to be a heel.

*Snoop Dogg is set to perform Sasha Banks's entrance music at Mania.

* The Wyatt Family will almost certainly be involved in the finish of the Lesnar/Ambrose match

*The new Divas belt is more than just aesthetic. The division will be re-branded as the "Women's Division" and there will be more emphasis on actual wrestling and less emphasis on Total Divas style drama. With the upcoming departures of the Bellas and the influx of great workers from NXT last summer, the WWE brass felt they needed to take the division in a completely different direction. Basically, it sounds like they are finally going to do what they should have done last summer for the "Revolution".

*There are still major re-writes going on for the Shane-Undertaker match. The current plan calls for the Authority - together with Shane - to turn on Undertaker. This will set up the shift of the Authority's attention away from the new champ Reigns and on to the Undertaker. Plans are for HHH-UT for SummerSlam. Either way, there is no way Shane is walking out of Wrestlemania as the babyface GM of Raw.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 02:00 PM Edit Post
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Tons of Wrestlemania rumor crap:

*Snoop Dogg is set to perform Sasha Banks's entrance music at Mania.

*There are still major re-writes going on for the Shane-Undertaker match. The current plan calls for the Authority - together with Shane - to turn on Undertaker. This will set up the shift of the Authority's attention away from the new champ Reigns and on to the Undertaker. Plans are for HHH-UT for SummerSlam. Either way, there is no way Shane is walking out of Wrestlemania as the babyface GM of Raw.


Does this mean new music for Sasha? Tough seeing Snoop singing "had a dream I, hadn't made it..." Either way, I'm always a mark for live music + entrance combo at Mania. Seems like we'll get quite a few special entrances this year.

Re: The Shane swerve; that outcome has sorta been in the back of my mind as a worst case scenario for the outcome of that match, but going by WWE logic it makes sense they'd go that way. IMO the #1 thing WWE needs to do to refresh everything isn't turning Reigns or getting behind the NXT talent, it's shelving the Authority & the heel GM concept for awhile. Hell, having Reigns be the guy that finally takes them out of power may be their best bet of getting the crowd behind him. But until then, even if Balor, Bayley, Cena, Cesaro, Rollins, RKO, Hogan, the Mountie, Andre & Glacier all show up over the next few days, it won't mean dick because that Authority anchor will still be attached to everything going on.

And HHH-Taker!?!? I love Taker & get pumped every time he wrestles but with that one.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 02:53 PM Edit Post
WWE announces a new show for the WWE Network entitled "Holy Foley" starring Mick Foley and his daughter Noelle. Apparently it will chronicle Noelle training to make it to WWE:

http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-announces-new-network-series-holy-foley/

It has Mick, so I am already in, but I have the distinct feeling everyone will be watching to see Noelle.

[Edited on 3-31-2016 by royberto]

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posted on 3-31-2016 at 03:28 PM Edit Post
Considering it sounds like the show is actually about her, well, yeah.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:04 PM Edit Post
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WWE announces a new show for the WWE Network entitled "Holy Foley" starring Mick Foley and his daughter Noelle. Apparently it will chronicle Noelle training to make it to WWE:

http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-announces-new-network-series-holy-foley/

It has Mick, so I am already in, but I have the distinct feeling everyone will be watching to see Noelle.

[Edited on 3-31-2016 by royberto]


Has there ever been a hardcore female WWE wrestler? Not talking about Chyna or Sunny hardcore (even though I'm all for Noelle Foley going that route as well). It would be interesting to see her try and live up to her dad and to see a super hot chick use thumbtacks, barbwire and fire when the situation calls for it. Living up to Ric Flair is one thing for Charlotte; living up to Mick Foley is something else entirely.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 04:52 PM Edit Post
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WWE announces a new show for the WWE Network entitled "Holy Foley" starring Mick Foley and his daughter Noelle. Apparently it will chronicle Noelle training to make it to WWE:

http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-announces-new-network-series-holy-foley/

It has Mick, so I am already in, but I have the distinct feeling everyone will be watching to see Noelle.

[Edited on 3-31-2016 by royberto]


Has there ever been a hardcore female WWE wrestler? Not talking about Chyna or Sunny hardcore (even though I'm all for Noelle Foley going that route as well). It would be interesting to see her try and live up to her dad and to see a super hot chick use thumbtacks, barbwire and fire when the situation calls for it. Living up to Ric Flair is one thing for Charlotte; living up to Mick Foley is something else entirely.


Luna Vachon comes to mind. I think her and Ivory had a hardcore match, albeit sort of a joke/cartoon type match.

But she would be the closest I can think of to being a "hardcore" type of wrestler and she certainly fit in with the Vachon family credo of being weird.

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posted on 3-31-2016 at 05:11 PM Edit Post
Didn't Lita put on the crimson mask in the indies a few times before she joined WWF? I think that as close as they ever got to having a female performer who would work those kinds of matches.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 05:21 PM Edit Post
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WWE announces a new show for the WWE Network entitled "Holy Foley" starring Mick Foley and his daughter Noelle. Apparently it will chronicle Noelle training to make it to WWE:

http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-announces-new-network-series-holy-foley/

It has Mick, so I am already in, but I have the distinct feeling everyone will be watching to see Noelle.

[Edited on 3-31-2016 by royberto]


Has there ever been a hardcore female WWE wrestler? Not talking about Chyna or Sunny hardcore (even though I'm all for Noelle Foley going that route as well). It would be interesting to see her try and live up to her dad and to see a super hot chick use thumbtacks, barbwire and fire when the situation calls for it. Living up to Ric Flair is one thing for Charlotte; living up to Mick Foley is something else entirely.


You tube "crazy Mary Dobson". You'll see staple guns and what not. I think she's in NXT now





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 05:38 PM Edit Post
Thanks for the insight. I gotta say, I think one thing that is holding women's wrestling back a bit is the lack of gimmic matches. A woman's Money in the Bank match, an occasional cage match, maybe even a mini-Royal Rumble would work wonders to put them all over. If they are to be treated equally than treat them equally.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 07:49 PM Edit Post
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Has there ever been a hardcore female WWE wrestler? Not talking about Chyna or Sunny hardcore (even though I'm all for Noelle Foley going that route as well). It would be interesting to see her try and live up to her dad and to see a super hot chick use thumbtacks, barbwire and fire when the situation calls for it. Living up to Ric Flair is one thing for Charlotte; living up to Mick Foley is something else entirely.


Since WWE fines people for intentionally drawing blood in matches nowdays there is no chance of there ever being another character built around a style of match they no longer have. Male or female. Unless they stop being a PG product.

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posted on 3-31-2016 at 09:56 PM Edit Post
She's indeed in NXT at the moment as "Sarah Dobson," hopefully she can elbow her way out of the (thankfully) crowded sea of talent there and make a go of it because she's wonderful.
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posted on 3-31-2016 at 10:27 PM Edit Post
So no big surprise but the news is out that the HHH/Reigns match is now no DQ.

Seems like they may still pimp out the Rock...

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posted on 3-31-2016 at 10:40 PM Edit Post
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Word is that Vince loves his size, but thinks his face doesn't look intimidating enough to be a heel.



This is the most Vince reason to decide to not push somebody ever.

That said, I am not upset to hear this news. Strowman's bad.





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 11:19 PM Edit Post
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Tons of Wrestlemania rumor crap:

* Cageside Seats is reporting that Strowman may no longer be in line to win the Andre Battle Royal. His planned main event match with Brock is now off the books as well. Word is that Vince loves his size, but thinks his face doesn't look intimidating enough to be a heel.


OK, this is just plain dumb if it's true. It's not like he looks like the Blaster half of Master Blaster and people laugh at him the minute they see him. They also had plenty of big guys that looked naturally intimidating (Kozlov, Heidenreich, Ezekial, etc) that got put into fuckheaded face roles despite their looks. Christ, it's like Vince & Bucky think up nonsense on purpose just to derail things because they're bored. Or sitting around half-drunk laughing like idiots at their own product and going "hey, you know what might be funny, lets put that psycho-lookin' guy in a rabbit suit and have the nightclub-lookin' guy beat him up!". It never ends with this company (costanza-ing intensifying).





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posted on 3-31-2016 at 11:24 PM Edit Post
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So no big surprise but the news is out that the HHH/Reigns match is now no DQ.

Seems like they may still pimp out the Rock...


And/or Undertaker if the above rumorzzzzzs has any truth to it. UT gets fucked with in his match, return the favor here Better chance of cheers for UT getting involved than another forced "hey let's put the Rock out there because SAMOANZZ and CHEERZ, even though it didn't work last time.





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posted on 4-1-2016 at 12:15 AM Edit Post
TNA had some hardcore women's wrestling now and again - I know Daffney did some (and got hurt doing it) and I think Cheerleader Melissa (whose TNA names I can't remember, plus some of the Gail/Kong stuff got pretty no-DQ. I think Mickie Knuckles on the indies has also done some hardcore stuff.

That said, I don't see that for Noelle generally - her dad's physical condition is the best advertisement against hardcore and I can't imagine him supporting his daughter pursuing that style.





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Christ, it's like Vince & Bucky think up nonsense on purpose just to derail things because they're bored.


Reminds me of Better Call Saul, when the assistant is showing Jimmy that commercial, and talks about how the thing the partners spent the most time on was the background swirl. That's how I picture Vince sometimes... just obsessing over the most pointless minutiae that doesn't even matter.





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Christ, it's like Vince & Bucky think up nonsense on purpose just to derail things because they're bored.


Reminds me of Better Call Saul, when the assistant is showing Jimmy that commercial, and talks about how the thing the partners spent the most time on was the background swirl. That's how I picture Vince sometimes... just obsessing over the most pointless minutiae that doesn't even matter.


I mean, I don't know how many old people you know, but that's pretty much what old men are like, yeah.





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Regarding the Shane heel turn speculation: it seems like that would go over really bad with the crowd after a month of "if Shane wins, things are going to get better around here!" talk. Just the thought of Vince and Shane coming out on Monday to gloat about how they fooled everyone and that the Authority isn't going anywhere...Jesus, that's depressing.

Though one fantasy booking thought that popped into my head (which will never happen in a million years, of course): Shane turns heel and defeats the Undertaker through some kind of nefarious means. Then in the main event, Shane comes out and screws over Triple H, helping Roman Reigns win the title. You then have Shane as the new evil head of RAW and Roman as his freshly heel golden boy (though where that would live Triple H and Steph, I have no idea).

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Tons of Wrestlemania rumor crap:

* Cageside Seats is reporting that Strowman may no longer be in line to win the Andre Battle Royal. His planned main event match with Brock is now off the books as well. Word is that Vince loves his size, but thinks his face doesn't look intimidating enough to be a heel.


OK, this is just plain dumb if it's true. It's not like he looks like the Blaster half of Master Blaster and people laugh at him the minute they see him. They also had plenty of big guys that looked naturally intimidating (Kozlov, Heidenreich, Ezekial, etc) that got put into fuckheaded face roles despite their looks. Christ, it's like Vince & Bucky think up nonsense on purpose just to derail things because they're bored. Or sitting around half-drunk laughing like idiots at their own product and going "hey, you know what might be funny, lets put that psycho-lookin' guy in a rabbit suit and have the nightclub-lookin' guy beat him up!". It never ends with this company (costanza-ing intensifying).








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posted on 4-1-2016 at 05:22 AM Edit Post
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Christ, it's like Vince & Bucky think up nonsense on purpose just to derail things because they're bored.


Reminds me of Better Call Saul, when the assistant is showing Jimmy that commercial, and talks about how the thing the partners spent the most time on was the background swirl. That's how I picture Vince sometimes... just obsessing over the most pointless minutiae that doesn't even matter.


I mean, I don't know how many old people you know, but that's pretty much what old men are like, yeah.


Can we get merc to confirm this or is he too busy angrily shaking his fists at the kids down the street who keep defacing the BERTO 2016 signs in his yard and listening to their rippity raps too loud?

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