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posted on 1-4-2016 at 02:36 AM Edit Post
Rumor Crap 2016

It's a new year, plus, we already came close to maxing out the last thread, so let's begin anew....

I don't got much, other than to pass along a bit of idle speculation that has been gaining traction, the more the Rock promises something big for WrestleMania:

It's doubtful he'll compete, as we already know about the problems he had getting insurance to do so (unless he changed his movie shooting schedule to make a nice big window, this will always be a problem, after he delayed the production of Hercules when he suffered an injury against Cena).... but there's a belief out there that he will be in Roman Reigns' corner, and will get physical, when Reigns faces Triple H and a cornerman TBA. Predictably, Michaels/Hall/Nash would be on the short list for cornermen who'd make things most sizzly; I thought about it, and if he's halfway healthy, how about Seth Rollins? But I guess I'd be OK with pretty much anything but Vince....




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posted on 1-4-2016 at 03:54 AM Edit Post
Michaels makes the most sense in that scenario. He's as big a wrestling legend as The Rock, he's HHH's best friend, and he's from Texas.

Also, I'd loved see Michaels vs. Rock in a promo battle leading up to Mania.

Nevertheless, Cageside Seats is reporting that WWE doesn't want to wait till Mania to do Reigns/HHH, and they will set that match up for the Rumble beginning this Monday.

If that's the case, who challenges Sheamus at Rumble? Brock? Cena?

[Edited on 1-4-2016 by CCharger]





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 04:03 AM Edit Post
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If that's the case, who challenges Sheamus at Rumble? Brock? Cena?




Challenges Sheamus for what? The heck of having a meaningless 1:1 match?





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 04:17 AM Edit Post
Jesus Christ. I must have had a stroke. I was thinking Sheamus was sill champ....





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 04:28 AM Edit Post
Stop living in denial. Roman Reigns is YOUR champion now.





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 04:49 AM Edit Post
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Stop living in denial. Roman Reigns is YOUR champion now.

Roman Reigns isn't the champion we want. He's the champion we deserve.





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 08:51 AM Edit Post
Let's face it, Roman Reigns has been the Schrödinger's Cat of World Champs for well over a year now.





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posted on 1-4-2016 at 03:50 PM Edit Post
Devil's Advocating: If they are planning Reigns vs. HHH at the Rumble, would it be a title match with HHH as challenger? Or might it be set up by HHH costing Reigns the title tonight against Sheamus? Perhaps Sheamus would be champ again or maybe the next champ is "Vacant" or "Abeyant". The Rumble could again be used to crown a new champ. and the Reigns vs. HHH match at the Rumble could have the stakes of if Reigns wins he's in the Rumble, but if HHH wins Reigns isn't in the Rumble.
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posted on 1-4-2016 at 07:13 PM Edit Post



Vader time in the HOF?

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posted on 1-4-2016 at 11:25 PM Edit Post
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Vader time in the HOF?



It's about time. In my opinion, he's the best big man I've seen. Monster heel, vicious, intimidating as hell, before his horrible wwf run





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posted on 1-5-2016 at 12:00 AM Edit Post
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Vader time in the HOF?



It's about time. In my opinion, he's the best big man I've seen. Monster heel, vicious, intimidating as hell, before his horrible wwf run


Therein is the rub. His WWE time is not HOF worthy. The rest of his career, post Leon White learns to wrestle, was very good.

Personally, there are several of WW(W)F/E wrestlers that are ahead of him for their time in the actual company who's HOF it is. Don't even start with WWE owns most of the video libraries BS...

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 12:48 AM Edit Post
Merc, correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that Vader should not be recognized for his stellar pre-WWE career by WWE with an induction into its Hall of Fame. I'm wondering then whether you also hold the opinion that the Four Horsemen, Dusty Rhodes, Stu Hart and Antonio Inoki, to name a few, should not be in the Hall of Fame because they either never or barely spent any time in WWE, won no championships, had a regretable run, etc.





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posted on 1-5-2016 at 12:51 AM Edit Post
If they can find a spot for Verne Gagne then they can find one for Van Vader.





Well you know, just because these young men have little education and live in squalor, it doesn't entitle them to commit antisocial behaviour and get away with it.

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 02:00 AM Edit Post
Um...breaking...minds...


Via Cageside Seats via Dave Meltzer:

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Hot on the heels of New Japan's Wrestle Kingdom 10, MLW Radio reported on Monday (subscription required to listen) that AJ Styles, along with "two to three" members of top heel faction Bullet Club, have given their notice to the company.

Meanwhile, on Monday's episode of Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer reported that WWE may be planning a small-scale raid of New Japan. According to Meltzer, WWE is going after Styles, current IWGP Intercontinental Champion Shinsuke Nakamura and former three-time IWGP tag team champions Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson.

Meltzer says where the four men are going to go, or when, is still "up in the air" at this time. He said that TNA was interested in Anderson, but WWE may have swooped in and grabbed him instead. Meltzer believes that if Nakamura signs with WWE, he will stay long enough to drop the Intercontinental Championship, so it won't be another situation like Alberto Del Rio signing with the company and not being allowed to drop his AAA Mega Championship.




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posted on 1-5-2016 at 02:49 AM Edit Post
Nakamura is beaten up and was barely handling NJPW's schedule. They have to be thinking of using him as a special attraction for NXT(sort of Liger except for every show). No way he'll handle the WWE schedule unless he really tones it down.

If the popular theory is correct(WWE just grabbing Japanese stars to give extra incentive to Japanese subscribers once the Network unveils over there next month) I wonder why they haven't gone after Muta.

He still wrestles from time to time and is the rare figure that is a big deal in Japan and big enough for the regular fans to quickly latch on to. Older fans remembering his heyday and easy to introduce to newer fans as a great rival of Sting and Ric Flair.

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 02:58 AM Edit Post
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Merc, correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that Vader should not be recognized for his stellar pre-WWE career by WWE with an induction into its Hall of Fame. I'm wondering then whether you also hold the opinion that the Four Horsemen, Dusty Rhodes, Stu Hart and Antonio Inoki, to name a few, should not be in the Hall of Fame because they either never or barely spent any time in WWE, won no championships, had a regretable run, etc.


It's not anything that causes me to lose sleep, it's a fake hall for fake fighting after all, but you are correct sir!

I do on all except maybe Rhodes. He had a killer run against SSBG in the 70's and he made polka dots cool. Not sure that's enough, but it's more than all the others mentioned combined.

There is actually a physical prowrestling hall of fame. Seems like that's the right place for those who didn't perform at a high level in a ww(w)e/f event. But that wouldn't make WWE shareholders money and I am a shareholder.

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 04:17 AM Edit Post
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The Wrestling Observer now reports that AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson have all in fact signed with WWE. The site reports that the four stars gave their notice to NJPW booker Gedo this morning at Wrestle Kingdom 10. It isn’t known when they will be starting with WWE but as noted, Nakamaura won’t be leaving right away as he will drop the IWGP Intercontinental Title before he does.

The site notes that Anderson was close to signing with TNA but when the WWE deal came around, he changed direction. New Japan has a one-year contract system which meant that their deals expired as of January.

Nakamura, Anderson and Gallows will honor their committed Ring of Honor dates next month in Las Vegas. AJ Styles is said to be done with ROH moving forward.



Holy SHIT.





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posted on 1-5-2016 at 04:21 AM Edit Post
Wow. Business sure picked up fast.

This is the last big free agent pickup there may ever be in wrestling. I'm hoping WWE throws AJ on the main roster immediately instead of wasting a major debut on NXT. Even if they might want to use this to build the NXT brand, it may be a once in a rest of the lifetime surprise to have a major star appear like used to be possible in the Attitude Era again.

Either way...major get for WWE. Already excited for the eventual Styles-Rollins match in 6-12 months.

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 04:36 AM Edit Post
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Vader time in the HOF?


oh sweet baby jesus I HOPE SO!!!!!!

I'm such a f'king Vader mark and I don't even know why, except for HE WAS SO AWESOME.

Vader for HOF2016! Where do I tweeter my facevotes to instagrammophone his candidacy?

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posted on 1-5-2016 at 07:46 AM Edit Post
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This is the last big free agent pickup there may ever be in wrestling. I'm hoping WWE throws AJ on the main roster immediately instead of wasting a major debut on NXT. Even if they might want to use this to build the NXT brand, it may be a once in a rest of the lifetime surprise to have a major star appear like used to be possible in the Attitude Era again.


Well, there is a match coming up real soon that always has surprise entrants. That would be an easy way for someone to make their main roster debut.





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posted on 1-5-2016 at 03:04 PM Edit Post
I can't say I am too excited. The Bullet Club is one of the best gimmicks/stables in all of wrestling right now and putting it into the hands of WWE Creative makes me cringe.

However, Daniel Bryan vs. Nakamura would give me an erection lasting more than four hours.

ETA: I too am a Vader mark, and I think he is very deserving of the HOF.

[Edited on 1-5-2016 by CCharger]





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posted on 1-5-2016 at 03:38 PM Edit Post
Would be pretty awesome if they actually did debut Styles in the Rumble. Though I wonder if he'd still have to spend some time in NXT. Maybe they could use a few spots in the Rumble to debut AJ/Anderson/Gallows and Finn as the Balor Club, but then they'd be on NXT after that.

And hey, almost did stumble into a correct prediction. The WWE title will be decided in the Rumble match itself this year.

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posted on 1-6-2016 at 02:15 AM Edit Post
Eh, The whole appeal of the Bullet Club was taking the slimmier aspect of Western stables and breathing new life into it by using it over in NJPW where's it's a lot more rare. The crotch chops, the 4 lyfe signs, that one guy who was constantly throwing catchphrases from the Attitude Era, the ridiculously large stable. It all worked over there because it was with a whole new context.If they attempted to redo Bullet Club in WWE, it'd just look nWo-lite. Still excited to see what they do with these guys.

Wonder if their nutty obession for not wanting wrestlers with the same name will strike here and they'll tell AJ to change his name.

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posted on 1-6-2016 at 02:29 AM Edit Post
I absolutely agree that having the Bullet Club come to WWE without making some alterations to the way it presents itself runs the risk of people crapping on it for looking like an nWo retread. When I was first exposed to the Bullet Club, I wasn't enthusiastic about it because it reminded me of the nWo.

I don't think AJ Styles has to worry about changing his name on account of the no-two-wrestlers-may-have-the-same-name rule. AJ Lee is retired, so there isn't someone actively using his name on WWE television.





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posted on 1-6-2016 at 02:41 AM Edit Post
AJ Lee being there or not, I would still bet money that his name is changed to just Styles.

Vince or Dunn or whoever made Cesaro drop Antonio because "it doesn't sound like a tough name." Same with Adrian Neville. In their warped brains, they probably think AJ is now only a girl's name.

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