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posted on 10-20-2014 at 08:58 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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posted on 10-28-2014 at 01:59 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Anyone ever notice that sometimes a band's signature song turns into something that can't be tolerated? I mentioned it earlier with Iron Maiden's Run To The Hills. I'd also add things in like GNR's Welcome To The Jungle, Nivana's Smells Like Teen Spirit, or Rush's Tom Sawyer. I'd probably live/die/kill/eat/fuck/shit for all of those bands but sometimes when they're official Most Greatest Song starts playing I have to turn it off ASAP. I put it down to the bullshit effect that commercial FM radio has on things. Take GNR as an example. I figure they've got at least a dozen to twenty other songs besides Welcome To The Jungle that I'd rather hear. Thanks to corporate franchise FM radio when one hears a GNR song it's likely, like nine times out of ten, to be WTTJ. If not it's then either Sweet Child Of Mine or Paradise City which have also been overplayed so much over the years to be almost unlistenable.

I know it all comes down to personal taste but holy fuck does the radio ever do a number on some songs by literally playing them to death. I know I'd mark out at a concert to hear Rush play Tom Sawyer live but when it's on the radio it's pretty much change the channel ASAP. They talk about newspapers dying out thanks to modern technology. It's be pretty damn good if the same sort of effect, either thru Sirius or people using Sync/USB systems to play their own things as they wanted, happened to FM radio. Radio when I was younger turned me into the music fan I am today. I don't know if they got worse or if I just got too old but now I can't even listen to it anymore thanks to some of the stupid things they keep doing.


I think this phenomenon can also be blamed on sporting events. You can pretty much guarantee that you'll hear the opening of "Welcome To The Jungle" or "Hell's Bells" or "The Final Countdown" during any football game you might be viewing. And the most random one I've ever seen - Crowds of all sports adopting the "Seven Nation Army" melody. Where the fuck did that come from? I saw Jack White in concert a month or two ago and I thought he might not play it due to oversaturation and sure enough he closed with it and the crowd went fucking bonkers, natch.





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posted on 11-9-2014 at 06:52 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I actually give my bitching a break if the signature song happens in a concert. Just because I, or someone else, doesn't like the signature song doesn't mean that the band playing it does. Plus it always gives the crowd a cheap pop, plus it can also turn out to be something unique if the band does something beyond the commercial version like Foo Fighters did when they began playing Times Like These in concert done acoustically.

Most of my complaints revolve around the industry, which is distinctly different from the medium. The medium is the artists working their asses off to earn what they get. The industry is the recording labels and radio pricks that don't want to move past beating a dead horse some more.

[Edited on 11/9/2014 by Paddlefoot]





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 12-22-2014 at 03:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Tesla - Love Song.

The band had some great licks - Modern Day Cowboy, Changes, Edison's Medicine and was the better hard rock bands from the late 80s, but this song is a dog. I hated the late 80s early 90s hit when the only rock songs that got radio play were the infamous power ballad. This is one of the worst power ballads from one of the better bands of the era.

I agree with Tom Sawyer and Rush. It isn't that Tom Sawyer is a bad song; it's just the worst song on Moving Pictures.





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YES. Worst song in their entire library. So much good Soundgarden and THAT piece of shit is what they're most known for.


I wouldn't say it sucks. It just got overplayed, and was so polished and anti-Badmotorfinger. I liked it at first, but after hearing it a hundred times was bored of it. Plus it still gets radio play, while songs like Jesus Christ Pose and Born on the 4th of July NEVER get played.

I feel the same way about Spoonman. Another okay song that went waaaay further than I understood.





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Fell On Black Days is by far the better "slow song" from Soundgarden.
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Fell On Black Days is by far the better "slow song" from Soundgarden.


Agreed. But anyone who says Black Hole Sun is Soundgarden's worst song ought to give Big Dumb Sex a spin. Hell, aside from the riff, Spoonman is garbage, too.

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I know I'd mark out at a concert to hear Rush play Tom Sawyer live but when it's on the radio it's pretty much change the channel ASAP.


Same here basically. Although I don't hate "Tom Sawyer", I always wonder why they don't play other songs from their vast catalog, even old catalog.

The one I can't stand is "Closer To The Heart". It's always on the set list. My huge dislike of the song is such that even during their live shows I go grab a pretzel and/or pee.





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You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 4-20-2016 at 05:47 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I was wondering wh he changed his av.

Never liked Rush although my brother is a huge fan. The only two Rush songs I like are Free Will and.....Closer to the Heart.


Also, I still don't tire of hearing Love Song by Tesla.

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posted on 4-21-2016 at 08:22 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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OMG! A rare Maclen sighting!






Ha! I didn't think anyone remembered anymore! The shower cap kid. The mysterious avatar that nobody really wanted to ask about until an astute OOster spotted the kid on the nascent WWE channel or whatever it is.

It should have won Avatar of the Year, but it never did. Bastuhrds!

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I was wondering wh he changed his av.


Honestly (and keep in mind this was years ago!) the page that hosted the image went belly up and I didn't have the image saved, can you believe that? And I never bothered to dig out my old VHS player in order to make another screen cap. With technology having advanced the way it has, and with the availability of the video, perhaps I should go back to it again, although I'm fond of "Inappropriate Behavior Channel" metalhead guy over there (see if you get THAT reference! )

I miss you guys.

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posted on 4-21-2016 at 08:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
It should win Avatar of the Century!
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 09:02 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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It should win Avatar of the Century!


Thanks Thai. Hey, are you still playing? I started playing again in my old age!





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It should win Avatar of the Century!


Thanks Thai. Hey, are you still playing? I started playing again in my old age!


I didn't see this until now, sorry!

I am and I'm not still playing. In that, I'm no longer in a serious band that has dreams and tours and all that. I still jam with some guys and we're looking to record soon and do some shows, but it's just going to be locally. We're all ex-dreamers turned to day-job guys now.

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posted on 8-6-2016 at 01:01 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I am and I'm not still playing. In that, I'm no longer in a serious band that has dreams and tours and all that. I still jam with some guys and we're looking to record soon and do some shows, but it's just going to be locally. We're all ex-dreamers turned to day-job guys now.


Just to derail this thread even further, man, I am slowly getting to that point (just turned 35 back in May...fuuuuuuucccckkkkkk). I played in and around the Charlotte area for the last four years with my band and we did okay, in fact better than I ever dreamed we would, but never hit any kind of big local success. Now the band is kind of unofficially broken up and I'm at that crossroads where I'm thinking "hmmm...am I too old to rock?" Like, I feel I like I still have so much more dope ass music to make, but at the same time I don't want to eventually be that 40 year-old guy onstage still chasing his dream that all the younger folk are snickering at.

And a fun fact: salmonjunkie and I messaged back and forth a couple of years ago about doing a show together when his band was on tour, but sadly it never materialized (mainly because Charlotte kind of sucks for local music and getting a response from a music venue here can be like pulling teeth).

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Happens to the best of us. I actually got paid to play a few gigs when I was living in Europe, so technically I could call myself a former professional musician. But for rock star kind of success? I turn forty in four days, and that ship has definitely sailed. But it was damned fun while I did it.
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Dude, I haven't even touched my basses - except to move them from one corner of the basement to another - in 2+ years. I get on a kick every few months where I'll dick around on my keys for a while, but I haven't even done that in 3-4 months. And guitar? I tried that a year or so ago, but my fingers were going in all the wrong spots. Yeah - looks like I'm pretty much done. I should really start thinking about selling my stuff.





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yea, I turned 40 this year, and became a manager at work a year and a half ago. Fuck, I've become what I tried hard not to be - middle management desk job in my 40s.

BUT THE BENEFITS!

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posted on 8-14-2016 at 11:11 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Yeah, time and reality have a way of setting in on us musician types at some point. *sigh*

There's a metal band here in Charlotte that's pretty successful locally and seemingly have some money behind them (presumably from one of their parents, as they have top of the line gear, merch, promotion, etc). Recently I saw one of their guitar players, who is like a 21 year-old metal chick, post on Facebook something along the lines of "I could never work a normal 9-5 job and am so glad I get to play in a band with my friends and not have to be a part of the everyday rat race!" And all I wanted to do was reply with "Wait until you're 30 and still trying to make it big in music and you're unemployed and still living at home with your parents, you fucking bitch!"

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

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on the flipside, I'm pretty good friends with the guys from a hard rock band, Windowpane, who are based here in Seattle. They're an awesome band who have toured with Tesla, Queensryche, 5 Finger Death Punch, and just played a festival in Montana on Saturday opening up for Buckcherry. They sell out our local bigger music venue that national touring acts don't always sell out.

They're also all in their 40s, older than me, none of them have regular day jobs and are pretty much paycheck-to-paycheck with no benefits (some of them are married to good women who have day jobs, but some of them are struggling). I have mad respect for these guys, and when they perform, they don't seem like a bunch of dudes too old to be up there, still hanging on. They just look like what they are - a badass rock band.

I've said before to close friends that as jealous as I am that they are still trying to make it, still making new records, new fans, etc, I wouldn't want to be in my 40s and financially struggling. And I guess that's the tradeoff. Because now that I'm where I am, doing my 9 to 5 and going home to a nice meal and then to retire to my couch to watch the next Netflix blockbuster or episode of the CWC and content, until I watch what my friends in this band and in other bands are still doing - still out there hustling, still out there hitting the road, and getting on the stage and performing, and I think - holy shit I miss that - and maybe I'm still not too old for that.

Or maybe I just need to find a fun band that has a monthly residency at a local bar and I'll be happy with that.


Thom - no more playing? I thought you had some dudes you were jamming with.

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Not for a while. I had one band that recorded an album - the sound was utter garbage. Then I left and joined another band - I think I posted the pics of us recording a demo here, as I seem to remember gooker or goon asking me about my 5-string - but we broke up a couple of years ago. Since then, I did some football officiating and took some more classes - no time for a band.

Back on topic, since sj happened to mention Queensr˙che in his post, they have a song on their latest album named, "Just Us." Ugh. The rest of the songs on the album I either like or love. That one, though, just no.





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I've said before to close friends that as jealous as I am that they are still trying to make it, still making new records, new fans, etc, I wouldn't want to be in my 40s and financially struggling. And I guess that's the tradeoff. Because now that I'm where I am, doing my 9 to 5 and going home to a nice meal and then to retire to my couch to watch the next Netflix blockbuster or episode of the CWC and content, until I watch what my friends in this band and in other bands are still doing - still out there hustling, still out there hitting the road, and getting on the stage and performing, and I think - holy shit I miss that - and maybe I'm still not too old for that.


Not to dive-bomb on this "live musicians-only" thread but the above is basically a perfect summary of why I'm sure most of us do the grind (minus the getting back on stage part). Those days that just SUCK at work I just think about the decent paycheck I make and the fun things it affords me to do and that keeps me going. As the saying goes - I work to live; not live to work. I'm in property management so if THAT shit was your passion growing up, you should seek immediate psychiatric counseling.

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on the flipside, I'm pretty good friends with the guys from a hard rock band, Windowpane, who are based here in Seattle. They're an awesome band who have toured with Tesla, Queensryche, 5 Finger Death Punch, and just played a festival in Montana on Saturday opening up for Buckcherry. They sell out our local bigger music venue that national touring acts don't always sell out.

They're also all in their 40s, older than me, none of them have regular day jobs and are pretty much paycheck-to-paycheck with no benefits (some of them are married to good women who have day jobs, but some of them are struggling). I have mad respect for these guys, and when they perform, they don't seem like a bunch of dudes too old to be up there, still hanging on. They just look like what they are - a badass rock band.


Yeah, that's a valid point and shows it is possible to do it into your 40's. I guess I was thinking more about being the 40-something year old guy who doesn't look like a rock star but is still trying to rock onstage and thinks that that one big break is going to happen at any moment.

I do kinda take inspiration from the late, great Peter Steele of Type O Negative though. I saw a quote from one of his friends or former bandmates (can't remember which) one time where he basically said "Peter would have been perfectly happy keeping his day job with the NYC Department of Parks and Recreation and just playing shows on the weekends and putting out albums at his own leisure, but then the band got too popular." So if working 9 to 5 and playing/releasing music around that would have been good enough for Peter Steele, then it's good enough for me.





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Hey doodz!

So, I'm back to the conversation a year and a half later. Better late than never, right?

Yeah, I played in a band in my younger years, and we were getting a bit of a local following. Band drama derailed everything, and I had to finish school anyway, so I did that, then got a job, then got married, started a family...

When my son grew up, finished his Eagle, graduated HS and went off to college (I'm older than you guys - not by much), someone who knew I used to play asked if I'd be willing to play in his band. I told him that at that point I was a hack and would just stink the place up. He insisted though, and the rest is history, as they say.

Fast forward three years or so, I'm one of the most sought-after bassists / rhythm guitarists / vocalists in the area! Actually, I'm not, but I've been playing constantly since then. The one thing is that I do it strictly as a hobby and for fun. If some $$ comes my way, then gravy, but I'm content with a drink ticket and/or a sandwich! Some guys go fishing, some guys play golf, some guys watch wrestling, I play in two bands! Oh! And I just hit 16 years at work.

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