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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:15 AM Edit Post
I don't see any moral justification for your friend changing his grade.

(this thread should never die)





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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:19 AM Edit Post
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When he was in university (college), one of his professors fucked up one of his grades. Let's assume that there is no debate on this - the metaphysical truth is that his grade "should have been" A, not D+ (because he missed the exam due to illness and the exam shouldn't have counted - instead it counted as a grade of zero). Again, let's assume that there is no question that his professor WOULD change it and agrees his "real" grade is A, but just never did.




Now how long ago was your friend in college?? Sounds like a few short years from the sound of it. Why didn't the professor correct the 'error' he saw right away?? Sounds like your friend just realized he needed the 'A' to get said job, like what, YEARS later?? Stupid. He should have dealt with the situation from the BEGINNING...and had he done so, he wouldn't have been in this mess in the first place.

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My question is, do you think it is morally acceptable for him to alter his grade on his transcript when submitting it to employers/anyone else? Is he "right" to show what employers "want" - that is, the truth and not necessarily what the school said?




This is an obvious no...simple as that (ok i know all this has been repeated, but hey, i've got stuff i want to say anyway, too.)

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The main issue is whether an individual has the moral right to provide the truth, even if it involves screwing with the system on which decisions are based. Thoughts?


How, exactly, do you provide the truth in this case?? Employers ask for the transcript, and THAT can't be tampered with. Telling them something verbally (ie: truth), is providing NOTHING. Like i said, had this grade been changed HOW LONG AGO (?), you're friend wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.





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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:21 AM Edit Post
Since this threads already ran off the tracks once-

Jeb- That image is impressive in its quantity. Ever considered a career in porn as a stunt cock?

Dr. Krydor- I have this burning sensation when I pee. What do you think it is?

KOH- Give the boyfriend a snuggle, tell him to see his professor about changing the grade and move on with your lives. I hear Hawaii is nice this time of year.

Moose- Of course you feel this thread should never end- it bears so strong a resemblence to your "investigation"- neverending, nonsensical and completely full of shit!

1 more post closer. YES!


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ummm..... brad smoley is gay.






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:22 AM Edit Post
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I don't see any moral justification for your friend changing his grade.

(this thread should never die)


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ummm..... brad smoley is gay.


More red herrings!

[Edited on 4-26-2006 by King of Harts]

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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:25 AM Edit Post
Ziggy is a name for faggots who have sex with small, helpless children of the same gender as the person named Ziggy. That's right. U R teh FAGGORTLESTORZ!






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:26 AM Edit Post
well, actually I said this thread should never die because I am having fun reading it, both the actual question responses, and the gay battle between BorntoAngsTard and Jeb's career in porn

But my answer remains, no, I see no moral justification for it





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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:27 AM Edit Post
everyone knows the hidden meaning behind brad smoley's avatar.

jeff jarrett represents brad smoley, and the tequiza represents king of hart's friend's cock.






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:28 AM Edit Post
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well, actually I said this thread should never die because I am having fun reading it, both the actual question responses, and the gay battle between BorntoAngsTard and Jeb's career in porn

But my answer remains, no, I see no moral justification for it


Stop evading my question.

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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:29 AM Edit Post
WOO!!!! DOUBLE POST!!!!

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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:30 AM Edit Post
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everyone knows the hidden meaning behind brad smoley's avatar.

jeff jarrett represents brad smoley, and the tequiza represents king of hart's friend's cock.

So you are saying that Mr. Smoley isn't exactly subtle in his desire to eat the cock?
Won't KOH get mad about somebody else swallowing his snugglebunny's love sausage?






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:31 AM Edit Post
Only HOBO GAY FAGS double post. Yeah, I called you homeless. Oh, here's a philosophical question for you now, Tard... "If your boyfriend said he wasn't gay, would you still have sex with his butt, even if that meant that you'd be bi now?"






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:32 AM Edit Post
Dr. Krydor- I have this burning sensation when I pee. What do you think it is?


Well, I'm not that kind of doctor, I'm a math doctor. I'm also a tree doctor and a doctor of football. As long as I'm making stuff up, they might as well sound impressive.

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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:32 AM Edit Post
well i have to asnwer your philosophical question with a philosophical question:

if a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it, would you still dress in leather chaps and bend over?






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:35 AM Edit Post
The order was fucked.

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I'll answer that with a question of my own: does the Pope shit in your mouth?






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I'll answer that with a question of my own: does the Pope shit in your mouth?


i'll answer that with an answer...


YES!!






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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:38 AM Edit Post
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well, actually I said this thread should never die because I am having fun reading it, both the actual question responses, and the gay battle between BorntoAngsTard and Jeb's career in porn

But my answer remains, no, I see no moral justification for it


Stop evading my question.


ok, how bout this, on the moral plane in which we exist, we all have to measure ourselves against some level of honesty. However, without dseception, there can be no honesty, so therefore, your freind is providing another stick by which all society has to measure themselves. In the future your friend's dilemma will be a question on an ethic's final exam. However, the proper answer will be: don't take the test and just change the grade for the class anyway. No one will do this, all will fail.

And it is all your friends fault.

Was that the question you wanted answered, or was it something more specific?





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Moral Rumble

I was fortunate enough to attend Sunday night’s Royal Rumble in Philadelphia, and it certainly was an incredible evening. An ending that the wrestling world will never forget compounded the unexpected twists, returns and debuts that came about during the battle royal. Now, some of the pics may be a bit blurry due to the fast-paced nature of the event, but hopefully you’ll feel the same excitement that all of us in attendance experienced. By the way, for some reason they used a WCW ring. Don’t ask me why.

Now, I present Borntorun’s photos from the 2004 Royal Rumble match!



As anticipated, Chris Benoit walks to the ring as the #1 entrant. Can he make it through 29 other competitors and head straight to Wrestlemania? Who cares, because…



After all these months, Billy Gunn is back as the second entrant!



For 90 seconds, the two technical artists grapple back and forth in an effort to get the other over the ropes. Benoit somehow gets the best of Billy, and is about to toss him when…



Rob Van Dam enters the ring at #3, wielding a cheese puff! Apparently, he didn’t get to finish his munchies before coming out and takes out his frustration with a devastating puff shot to Benoit's head. This interference allows Billy to acrobatically cling to the ring ropes and barely avoid elimination.



Scott Steiner enters at #4, obviously not caring about the other wrestlers as he immediately starts some sort of push-up routine. After determining that Steiner isn’t a threat, RVD looks to finish off Benoit with an innovative maneuver known as the VanCheesinater, which is more insidious than it sounds. After pointing to himself not once, not twice, but thrice, he is about to leap when entrant #5 Kane’s music envelopes the arena.



Unable to avoid the ringpost pyrotechnics, Van Dam is catapulted out of the ring and thus eliminated by the firework explosion. He also suffered severe burns on his twig and berries. Talk about a firecrotch! Oh, I kill me.



Kane unnsuccesfully tries to chokeslam Steiner out of the ring; Steiner is just too agile and quick and escapes to the ropes. Benoit, now out of harm’s way, sneaks up on entrant #6 Christian, who inexplicably comes out in his outfit from 1999. From the crowd’s reaction, I don’t think the peeps approved of the costume change. Or maybe they just don’t care about Christian. Eh, whatever.



Benoit, though, is a SUPLEX MACHINE and instinctively sets up for his famous German Suplex. He is about to deliver the first of 26 Germans when…



Kurt Angle comes in at #7, with not only a will to win but also a brand new, immaculate head of hair! Looking good: oh yes, it’s true.




Benoit and Angle quickly have a match of the year while the other wrestlers enthusiastically watch. Kane finds RVD’s cheese puff and wonders how he is going to eat it now that he has to wear the mask again. Angle Slam!



Rey Misterio, competitor #8, is next and immediately delivers a crowd-popping 619 to Christian! Meanwhile, Benoit reaches for the ropes while Angle applies the Anklelock, Steiner and Billy debate on who is more winded, and Kane ponders whether or not he should light the cheese puff on fire.



He does. It just smolders and Kane doesn’t like the taste of ash. Or ass. But especially ash.



While Kane debates whether or not he should just ignite himself, Shawn Michaels comes in at #9! Fresh off of his Last Man Standing Match defeat vs. Triple H, he exacts his revenge on Christian because there can be only 1 true favorite son of Jesus in the WWE. Benoit and Angle continue their ***** classic, with the Crossface the next applied maneuver. Oh, and Steiner proves that he is the most winded, collapsing and gasping like a fish out of water. Billy’s boots look spectacular.



In the first of many returns, Saturn steps into the ring at #10. Shawn Michaels takes out his frustration by immediately tossing Saturn out of the ring and screaming “Get out of here, you idol-worshipping Pagan! The Roman Gods were not real!” An enraged Kane throws a hissy fit over the burnt cheesy puff, and hurls it like a javelin right into Rey Rey’s spleen. Benoit locks Angle into a side suplex with a bridge, which would be really spectacular except that there are no pinfalls. But it’s a SUPLEX so their match now gets ******. Steiner regains consciousness through the power of Billy’s Ass.



Tazzzzz returns to wrestling, coming in at #11 and attacking the Big Red Machine without hesitation. HBK tries to get Scott Steiner to convert from his moon-speak to the Bible, and Benoit earns another ˝ * by landing a flying headbutt.



X-Pac makes his surprising comeback at #12, sticking out his tongue as the former DeGeneration X members pound on the former WCW champion. HBK taunts Steiner with verses from the book of Matthew.



The profusely bleeding Ric Flair tries to come in at #13, but in his excitement to be busted open he bladed backstage. Although the crimson mask looks good, he doesn’t have enough blood to enter the match and passes out before he makes it to the ring.



Saturn and Tazzzzz are eliminated at the same time that Angle hits his picture-perfect moonsault on Benoit. The match now stands at *********1/2. The reunited DX celebrates in the adjacent corner, back together at last!



Well, at least until Billy tosses them both, proving his physical dominance and charisma.



Then, out of nowhere, the Man Known As Sting appears! The greatest wrestler to never work for Vince McMahon is finally in the WWF!



But wait! Another Sting comes forth, dressed in his vintage Wolfpac outfit. The two stand face to face as the crowd wonders, “Who is the real Sting?”



20,000 people look to the ceiling as a third Sting descends from the rafters! Will this be the true Stinger?



Upon landing in the ring, Trenchcoat Sting unleashes his trademark tenacity as he performs a double Stinger Splash on the two frauds!



A Scorpion Death Drop is next, as the star of Shutterspeed is quite the picture of perfection at the Royal Rumble.



Kane, distracted by the shinyness of Billy’s derriere, attempts to rub it like a nickel. The fake Stings are eliminated, and the crowd wonders what surprises are next.



#17 (after the 3 Stings) is an even gianter Big Show! Standing at 9ft, this behometh literally casts a shadow over the rest of the ring.



The two legends stand eye to eye. Can anyone get the Big Show over the top rope?



Yep! With a Herculean effort that seemed as effortless as a flick of the wrists, Billy Gunn launches the 800 lb. Big Show out of the ring.



He’s Got it All!



In another electrifying return, Raven comes out at #18 and decides to use his words instead of his fists. He, Kane, and Sting debate on who is the most “Goth” wrestler. Personally, I think it’s Vampiro, but he wasn’t invited. Benoit has Angle in the Tarantula, and my * button on my keyboard may be broken. I’ll let it cool off for a while, even though these guys are just heating up.



Meanwhile, Raven gets sick of arguing who the most depressed band is and decides that he likes a track off of Pearl Jam’s 10th album. Kane disagrees, but has to hear it anyway.



Billy Gunn feels like showing off his gold trunks, and Sting is about to lock in the Scorpion Deathlock when…



Stone Cold! Stone Cold! He’s here to kick ass and take names! Or…is he? Somehow, he couldn’t get the glass to shatter and without the Kee-Rash! he can’t enter the ring.



Next at #20 is…Triple H? But, he’s still champion! He can’t be in the Royal Rumble! Does he have some sort of backstage influence?



Before Trips enters the ring, he walks up to Austin and apologizes for the glass thing. “I’m sorry, I thought Chris Jericho was coming out. I didn’t mean to give you this portable glass ceiling.” A simple tap of the sledgehammer shatters the barrier into 316 shards and the two legends enter the ring.



Within seconds, they show their superiority by executing their finishers on Sting and Raven. Business has certainly picked up!



In the weirdest turn of events yet, the 21st entrant is…the old WWF logo? The ominous image slowly floats toward the ring, the menacing metal glittering in the arena lights.



Austin doesn’t give a $hit about what the logo is up to, and yells “Get the ‘F out!” as he delivers another stunner.



Ric Flair regains consciousness and slowly climbs back in the ring, joining the greatest collection of superstars in wrestling history: Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Triple H, Steve Austin, Kane, and Billy Freakin’ Gunn. They all lock eyes with one another and there is no question that chaos is to ensue.



Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh! The most surprising return yet comes in at #22, as Bonesaw is back! Everyone stares at him, wondering if Tobey MaGuire will be out next. He's dreamy! Billy Gunn, being a cowboy, especially loved Seabiscuit.



Let’s get it on! Everybody finds a partner or two and commences the beatdowns. Benoit and Angle are bored with the rest of the wrestlers and they lock up in the most technical “stand in the corner of the ring and punch” sequence of all time!



What’s this? An army of M.U.S.C.L.E.S are in at 23! How can the WWE Superstars defeat a squadron of tiny wrestlers with spikes and helmets?



The legends cower in fear as the M.U.S.C.L.E.S. creep in the ring and set their sights on winning the match. However, before they can attack, a trumpet echoes throughout the arena.



It’s the U.S. Military, coming in at #24! Oh my God, the U.S. Military! Apparently, the M.U.S.C.L.E.S are Al-Queda soldiers, and the good guys are after justice. They're here for our freedom!



The infantry opens fire, and with pinpoint accuracy all of the muscles are shot over the top rope. It’s a good day for America.

USA! USA! USA! USA!

We all pause for the national anthem, the soldiers leave, and the action resumes as if this never happened.



Before the next wrestler comes out, an ambulance comes to pick up the casualties and help the wounded. What a nice gesture.



Wait, that’s not an ambulance…it’s a robot in disguise! Some crappy little Transformer is in at 25, and although it’s small, it has a lot of firepower. Is anybody a match for the robot?



Billy Gunn has had enough of these shenanigans and punts the Transformer out of the ring. It’s up, and it’s good! Just like Billy. Except he’s more than good, he’s exceptional. Hooray for Billy!



Hulkamania is back! Hulk Hogan is the next super return, and although he knows everybody says their prayers and keeps in shape, he’s here to make sure we’re all Flinstone kids. We all know Betty is the hottest, especially when she's one of the orange ones.



Hogan decides that there is too much talent in the ring, and literally throws Kane, Flair, and Macho Man at the same time. Nothing new there. The Vitamins look on in approval, keeping us strong and growing.



Hollywood superstar Rocky Maivia is #27. Apparently, the studios didn’t like his current hardass look and wanted a kindler, gentler, babyface Duane Johnson. The crowd cheers in approval in memory of the last real goodguy.



In another electrifying moment, Rock/Hogan III looks to be next. Will this confrontation match the levels of Wrestlemania X-8? The icons stand toe to toe, knowing that the first one to break the gaze is done for.



The lights go out! What happened? Is there a new ref in the ring? Are You Afraid of the Dark? on Nickelodeon was a great SNICK show, by the way. I liked how it was scary but not too scary, you know? Anyway...



Someone gets the lights back on, and amid a sea of fallen heroes stands the Undertaker! And he has one leg. This is truly the scariest man that could ever come to the WWE.



Except for Jason Vorhees! He slit Spike Dudley’s throat in the back and comes in at #29, on the hunt for skinny-dipping teenagers and drug-using coeds.



Instead, he finds half-naked men and beer-swilling bastards. A slash of Austin’s Smoking Skull takes him out, and Rock and Hogan soon fall to the Undead monster.



Triple H sneaks under the bottom rope as Billy Gunn nonchalantly relaxes in the corner. Angle and Benoit are locked in a German Suplex when Jason skewers both of them simultaneously. The double-sell gives their match a final rating of ****************!!!!!1111!!!!****OMG. Undertaker also disappears without a trace.



With HHH out of the ring, it’s just Billy and Jason. Can the Assman beat the Crystal Lake Slasher? Jason raises his machete, seconds away from ending Billy forever.



With cat-like reflexes, Billy unleashes wrestlings most dangerous maneuver—the FameAsser. One of those puts Vorhees down for the count faster than you can say "Chucky."



The audience finds out entrant #30, Bill Goldberg, is stuck in a utility closet and can’t get out. So we’re left with the moment we’ve all been waiting for: The Cerebral Assassin vs. The plain ASSassin. Will HHH win and face himself at Wrestlemania? Would he job to his mirror image?



During the staredown, Triple H injures all of his leg muscles, bones, and tendons at the same time. The quads, hamstrings, ankles, acls, and everything else falls apart as The Game screams in agony.



Billy, not knowing what else to do, flaunts his rear. His glorious ass sends a heavenly beam of energy to HHH, knocking Trips over the top rope. Billy Gunn is the winner of the Royal Rumble! My, God, Billy Gunn is the last man standing!



The show fades to black as Billy taunts Triple H with the title belt. “At Wrestlemania, I’ve got two waaaaards for ya: New Champion!”



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posted on 4-26-2006 at 03:44 AM Edit Post
So Yousef, have you decided that your mother made a mistake when you were born, so when you apply for jobs you mark out the M and substitute a F, 'cause we all know you're my bitch. The philosophical dilemma of the fact that you SHOULD have been born a female; yes you deserve to have been born a female, yet you are not a female is troubling me.

So I pose the question to you all...Is is morally acceptable for Yousef to mark his applications with an F instead of an M???






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I TOTALLY just came up with this on my own...

Both of my oldest daughters attend Catholic school and last night The Wife and I were invited to dine with the faculty and 20-odd other parents. After dinner, I became lost trying to find my way back from the little boys room in the Gothic maze that is their school. I entered the wrong room, and found myself looking at 10-12 boys all with networked laptops on their laps (imagine that) playing a new roleplaying game using the d20 system called "Testament". For those of you unfamiliar with "roleplaying games," they are games wherein one plays a role. Actually, that's about the furthest thing from the truth. Roleplaying games are, in general, an excuse for lonely boys, aged 12 and older, to engage in an activity that is like a sport but doesn't require all the sweat. As a fan of sports, sweating and roleplaying games, I can tell you that all are fairly similar. Sports, sweating and roleplaying both can fill the void left by the lack of hunting in the typical male lifestyle. We've got instincts, people, what do you expect from us? Sometimes, girls play too. Often, it's because their boyfriends make them play. Sometimes, it's for other reasons that I've never quite been able to puzzle out for myself.

Regardless of your reasons, roleplaying games advance beyond simple board games and card games by giving you a character in a story and allowing you and endless array of choices for that character - will I rob the shopkeeper and then kill her, or will I kill the shopkeeper and then rob her? It's much like writing a story, but without the important editorial process. Games like Dungeons and Dragons and Vampire: The Masquerade have shaped the subculture of the world, and created such brutally mutated offspring as EverQuest and the Final Fantasy games, which are bastard children indeed.

Enough about all that, though - let's get back to the topic. "Testament" takes an interesting "historical period" or "mythology" (depending on your religious bend) and places characters in it - namely, the Old Testament of the Bible. With characters like David and Goliath (who are both given statistics in the book I thumbed through), Abraham and Moses and, say, Job, it's no wonder that this fabulous religious tome was finally given a set of rules so that we, the gamers, could kill shopkeepers in an entirely new setting.

Remember, though - the Jews often win in the Old Testament, so if the shopkeepers sporting a yarmulke (pronounced ya-mah-ka, heathen), leave him be. Lightning may, in fact, strike you down.

But, with only the Old Testament covered, it leaves us with a burning question - what are Jesus' stats? Could Jesus take on a mature adult red dragon single-handedly, or would he need the apostles to back him up with some buffing, healing and ranged attacks? How much is Judas' backstab bonus? What level campaign are the Gospels? Naturally, I've thought about this quite a bit.

The first conclusion many people will jump to is that Jesus was a high-level character. But this conclusion doesn't stick with me. While healing the sick and creating food are excellent abilities, they're not that high in spell level. Remove disease and create food and water are 3rd level cleric spells at best. Sure, raise dead is a 5th level spell, but Jesus only raised the dead once or twice, leading me to believe he cast the spell from a scroll.

Let's face it, Jesus was all about talk and not about casting high-level spells or winning folks over with combat. His specialty was actually the Diplomacy ability.

As a half-celestial, Jesus had a +4 Charisma, and I'll bet he maxed that stat, meaning he ended up with a 22 Charisma at 1st level. (In my divine order, God uses the point-by system, meaning Jesus can min-max his stats.) This alone gives Jesus a +6 bonus to Diplomacy. Now, on a good day, Jesus could sway an "Unfriendly" NPC to "Friendly", which is a DC 25 Diplomacy check. Now, we'll define a "good day" as a roll of 15 on the old twenty-sided die. That roll, plus his +6 bonus from Charisma gives him a total of 21. He only needs 4 ranks of Diplomacy to make that up. If we consider Jesus a 5th level cleric, he could have 8 ranks of Diplomacy, giving him a +14 to his roll for Diplomacy checks.

Now, I bet you're asking why I peg Jesus so low on the level chart. "Surely, STH must have something against Jesus." I promise you, it's nothing like that. But God gifted Jesus with some powers, and I think Jesus tried to use them as best he could to help save the world. But you'll note that Jesus never used flame strike or greater planar ally in the New Testament.

Imagine, if you will, Jesus confronting King Herod with a well-placed pillar of holy flame, damage being half-fire, half-divine. Being a King, Herod was obviously a high-level fighter who had retired, so he would have survived, but it would have given him something to think about. The New Testament is a low-magic world - that kind of magical effect, you can really impress a simple fighter. Besides, with his half-celestial template and 5 levels of cleric, Jesus is an ECL 9 character - not too shabby, overall. If it makes you feel more comfortable for the son of God to be a higher-level character, give him a few levels of bard or rogue, to buff up the Diplomacy and other Charisma skills. I'm convinced that when Jesus said, "God, why have you forsaken me?" he was really implying, "DM, why can't I have some more levels, dude?"

In my opinion, the New Testament is a low-level campaign designed for those who are strongly interested in roleplaying and character development. The adventure has a very tragic ending that could be very exciting for folks who are interested in that kind of thing, but hack-and-slash players will find the Old Testament to be a lot more interesting.






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