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Chris Is Good517 - 1-26-2014 at 04:10 PM

This topic came up at work a few weeks ago and I thought it would be fun to bring up here. What are some songs that you absolutely cannot stand to listen to by some artists that you otherwise absolutely love? Obviously, I have a few:

Billy Joel- Piano Man. I know, only the olds like Billy Joel, but I grew up with him and I love his stuff, and it seems like because Piano Man is the only Joel song that people who don't like him actually like, it gets played 2000x more than any of his other songs. It's just kind of a bummer of a tune and I'm done with ever wanting to hear it.

Tom Petty- Free Fallin'. I have no idea why this is Petty's go to song because there is so much better in his library, but this one really got burned out for me a long time ago by a friend of mine who taught himself this song and pretty much only this song on the guitar. It got to be a bit of a running gag at parties- "hide the guitar, Nate's on his way to play Free Fallin'." Anyway, overexposure plus never being that fond of it to begin with have turned it into something that just immediately makes me belligerent when I hear it.

Counting Crows- Round Here. I should point out that I don't love current folksy Counting Crows, but I totally love the alt rock Counting Crows of the 90s. But this song really did nothing for me. Too slow, too depressing, too angsty. Easily the worst song on their entire first album.

Michael Jackson- Ben. Say what you will about the guy and his personal life, but he made some awesome, awesome music for his time. Ben is not part of that awesome music.


Paddlefoot - 1-26-2014 at 05:38 PM

It's almost impossible to overemphasize how much that Tom Petty album was overplayed on radio and MTV at the time. It's not all that difficult to see why when Runnin' Down A Dream or Free Fallin' are on the radio that the station gets changed ASAP. I loaded most of a Tom Petty's greatest hits into the MP3 player, but I deliberately left those songs out because I really don't want to hear them ever again. I put it down to the Jeff Lynne producer/co-writer effect of the late 1980's/early 1990's. Petty was hanging out with him too much. It's also why I have a hard time listening to anything by The Travelling Wilbury's or George Harrison's solo work from the same time period.

I spent all of high school, college, and up to about age 40 doing nothing but absorbing U2. Lived, breathed, and would have died for that band. I kept going with them even when the albums turned into things that really only have three or four worthwhile songs on them instead of the ones where from start to finish they were awesome. I can more than tolerate Bono too because the overall charitable good that he keeps doing for the world in general more than makes up for his moments of being too annoying and pompous. But I still had to purge most of their songs from the player as well. Really don't want to hear Where The Streets Have No Name or Sunday Bloody Sunday ever again.

I'll toss Bryan Adams onto the pyre as well. I'm down to about three or four songs of his that I can listen to without getting angry. Ditto with The Beatles


williamssl - 1-26-2014 at 08:13 PM

Jane's Addiction's "Been Caught Stealing"

Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Under the Bridge" and "My Friends"

INXS' "Need you Tonight"


All of these fall under "making music for mass consumption and getting a video in heavy rotation on MTV" genre.


punkerhardcore - 1-26-2014 at 10:33 PM

The Joker. I mostly like Steve Miller Band otherwise, but I've always fucking hated that song.


TownOfDalem - 1-26-2014 at 10:49 PM

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away.

Admittedly I don't love that band, but most of their singles are enjoyable. I absolutely hate that song though.

I don't hate it, but I've never been a huge fan of Foo Fighters - Everlong.


the goon - 1-27-2014 at 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by TownOfDalem
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away.


Thank you. I've enjoyed a good bit of the Chili Peppers' stuff over the years, but have never been a fan of that song. Just too repetitive and kind of annoying.

And one that I'll pick is the cover of "Smooth Criminal" that Alien Ant Farm did. I think that they're great and are one of the more underrated rock bands of the 2000's, but I could never get into that song, even though it was a huge hit. Kind of sad that they basically got written off as a one-hit wonder, but are way more talented than that one radio hit.

[Edited on 1-27-2014 by the goon]


Thom - 1-27-2014 at 07:12 PM

ELP - Lucky Man. Seriously - that is their most popular song here in the US?

Dream Theater - The Dark Eternal Night. Systematic Chaos is a pretty great album, but this song simply blows.

Queensryche - Almost all of their stuff from the Hear in the Now Frontier album to the Tribe album. And whatever that last album that I don't have that was done with Geoff Tate. Their early stuff was fantastic, and the newest album (with Todd LaTorre singing) is great. But that bit between the Promised Land Album and then (not including Mindcrime II, which was decent)? Eh, no.

Evanescence - Good Enough. Why?

Lady GaGa - Jewels 'n' Drugs. Love the new album, but I skip this song every time.

Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart. This was their only #1 hit. Not Roundabout, And You and I, Starship Trooper, or Heart of the Sunrise. Owner of a Lonely Heart. Seriously?


punkerhardcore - 1-27-2014 at 09:22 PM

I just remembered The Offspring. I couldn't stand those silly novelty songs they did for a stretch there in the late 90s/early 2000s. I'm glad they abandoned that crap in recent years.


salmonjunkie - 1-27-2014 at 10:46 PM

Michael Jackson's Thriller is one of the greatest albums of all time and is one of my favorite albums personally.

However, I hate "The Girl Is Mine".

[Edited on 1-27-2014 by salmonjunkie]


CVD39 - 1-29-2014 at 12:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
The Joker. I mostly like Steve Miller Band otherwise, but I've always fucking hated that song.


Same here. And for some inexplicable reason people love that song.

Not the biggest Soundgarden fan in the world, but I dig Superunkown enough to include Black Hold Sun in this conversation. I hate that song.

And as much as I loved 90's Alice In Chains, I always hated Rooster and Down In a Hole. Just too slow and boring for me. And I get it, they're war songs and are supposed to make you feel alert and uneasy, but I just not cared for them.

Iliked U2 until everything they did after Achtung Baby.

[Edited on 1-28-2014 by CVD39]


Chris Is Good517 - 1-29-2014 at 12:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CVD39
Not the biggest Soundgarden fan in the world, but I dig Superunkown enough to include Black Hold Sun in this conversation. I hate that song.



YES. Worst song in their entire library. So much good Soundgarden and THAT piece of shit is what they're most known for.


quote:

And as much as I loved 90's Alice In Chains, I always hated Rooster and Down In a Hole. Just too slow and boring for me. And I get it, they're war songs and are supposed to make you feel alert and uneasy, but I just not cared for them.



I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate Rooster, but if it comes on I'll usually see if anything else is one the radio. Down in a Hole doesn't bother me nearly as much, probably because it doesn't get close to the amount of airplay Rooster gets.


williamssl - 1-29-2014 at 04:14 AM

I debated putting Black Hole Sun on my list, but I recently saw Cornell in a solo acoustic show at the performance hall where the Seattle Symphony plays (translation - amazing sound) and he did a version of that which made me forget the awfulness of the electric Soundgarden version.


Paddlefoot - 1-30-2014 at 01:21 AM

Iron Maiden's Number Of The Beast is probably one of the greatest metal albums of all time. God knows I've listened to it enough to practically have all of it memorized. Can't stand Run To The Hills though for some reason. Just hate that song. Something about the opening guitar chords is just so annoying, like that idiotic tomahawk chop chant they do at Atlanta Braves games. The foolish video they put out for it, with a bunch of "comical" images of Indians from 1930's and '40's movies matched up to what is supposed to be some serious lyrics, didn't help much either.


gobbledygooker - 2-11-2014 at 07:26 PM

Fun topic!

And since a lot of these choices have seemed to revolve more around "I'm freakin' sick of that song" vs. "I just never liked that song from the first time I heard it" I'm going to try to stick with the latter for my choices -

Foo Fighters - "White Limo" - "Wasting Light" is easily one of the best albums I've heard in the last 20 years but that is the one song on the CD I never really got into.

Nirvana "All Apologies" - As with a few other choices here, it doesn't help that this song has been played into the freakin' ground over the years but it was always one of my least favorites by them.

Agreed with Paddle on "Run To The Hills." Amazing album but that's definitely my least favorite song off of it. Speaking of Maiden, I was never much of a fan of "Stranger In A Strange Land" off of "Somewhere In Time." I feel like the riff was trying to rip off "Shout At The Devil."

I love me some Pearl Jam but they've had quite a few songs that hit with a "thud" for me. The main one that comes to mind is "Given To Fly."


desjr001 - 3-15-2014 at 07:33 PM

The Ramones cover of "Baby I Love You". END OF THE CENTURY was produced by Phil Spector and you would think that would be a dream collaboration. WRONG! That album sounded flat as a pancake with the Ramones almost completely drained of energy. A painful record to hear as a Ramones fanatic, with "Baby I Love You" being downright embarrassing. (Oddly enough, that disc DOES have one of my favorite Ramones songs in "Danny Says")

And speaking of embarrassing..."Rapture", "The Tide Is High" and that whole damn AUTOAMERICAN album made me ashamed that I was once a Blondie champion.

"Hot Dog" by Led Zeppelin, What. Were. They. Thinking?

I always thought that "Radio Ga-Ga" was one of Queen's worst songs ever.

Once I heard a ballad by Motorhead about British soldiers in foxholes in WW2. It sounded like the Pogues or something! I get that WW2 iconography is a major player in Lemmy's vision, but I don't want my Motorhead sounding like The Pogues (and I love The Pogues! I was so horrified that I never wanted to know of it again, so I don't remember the title.


CamstunPWG187 - 3-16-2014 at 05:24 AM

Chili Peppers are good for their singles, and I do really like their first album, But for the love of science, I can't find myself liking "Californication"...I really hate that song.

I really hate the song "Capone Bone" from Capone and Noreaga, that song sucks ass and whenever I put the album 'The War Report' on my media devices, I leave that song off.

Nas - Nas Is Coming, and generally most stuff from albums 98 and on.


nOOb - 3-16-2014 at 08:33 PM

Best place for me to say it. I have always liked and appreciated Run DMC. Maybe not "loved", but I'll listen to their stuff out of a sense of respect and somewhat enjoy what I'm hearing.

"Walk This Way", though, regardless of Aerosmith's involvement? I really, really hate that song. With a passion. It just reached a level of overplayed that, even if I didn't hear that song for ten years, I'd still hate it on year 11.


gobbledygooker - 3-17-2014 at 04:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
Once I heard a ballad by Motorhead about British soldiers in foxholes in WW2. It sounded like the Pogues or something! I get that WW2 iconography is a major player in Lemmy's vision, but I don't want my Motorhead sounding like The Pogues (and I love The Pogues! I was so horrified that I never wanted to know of it again, so I don't remember the title.


1916.

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Nas - Nas Is Coming, and generally most stuff from albums 98 and on.


Agreed. Once I saw him in a video with P. Diddy (for "Hate Me Now" which was an awful song in and of itself) I knew he had jumped the shark.


CamstunPWG187 - 3-17-2014 at 06:26 PM

Seriously man, i'm listening to that song (nas is coming) right now, and I just can't believe this made the album.

It Was Written was a great album, but holy shit, this song just didn't match the album in anyway. The beat, his flow, the hook.....How did he greenlight this shit>?


salmonjunkie - 3-18-2014 at 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by gobbledygooker

quote:
Nas - Nas Is Coming, and generally most stuff from albums 98 and on.


Agreed. Once I saw him in a video with P. Diddy (for "Hate Me Now" which was an awful song in and of itself) I knew he had jumped the shark.


He had that regretful period where he was Nas Escobar, did shit with P. Diddy and all that garbage, but he went back to being awesome again with 2002's God's Son. He's been hit and miss since then, but I think he went back an un-jumped the shark (that's why I hate this term, there's always a way back to goodness). There's good stuff out of Hip-Hop Is Dead and "N".


gobbledygooker - 3-18-2014 at 09:57 PM

Yeah, I think I heard that but I had pretty much exited the rap game by the time he returned to credibility.


salmonjunkie - 3-18-2014 at 10:48 PM

I love Motley Crue but I hate "Don't Go Away Mad, Just Go Away"

I also love Depeche Mode but I hate "I Just Can't Get Enough"


Paddlefoot - 3-18-2014 at 11:10 PM

I reserve my precious hatred for the Crue for when they do covers like Smokin' In The Boys Room or Anarchy In The UK/USA. "Fuckin' destroy", like you drone at the end of Anarchy, Vince? Really, Vince? When exactly did you work for a living, Vince, and actually have the right to be pissed off at society instead of living in a mansion for the last thirty years and having your recording company drop a dumptruck full of $100 bills off at your house three or four times a year? I'm gonna take advice on getting angry at The Man and burning down the world from some spandex-clad piece of shit fucking asshole who never worked a real job in his entire life, who does drugs all the time and somehow never gets arrested for it, bangs ho's left and right (including a shitload that count as statutory rape), and gets away with murdering people while driving drunk? FUCK. YOU. YOU. FUCKING. PRETTYBOY. FUCKING. ASSHOLE.

Other than that the rest of their songs are fine.


salmonjunkie - 3-18-2014 at 11:53 PM

Oh yeah, I hate their cover of Anarchy In The UK.


williamssl - 3-19-2014 at 12:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
I love Motley Crue but I hate "Don't Go Away Mad, Just Go Away"

I also love Depeche Mode but I hate "I Just Can't Get Enough"


You are wrong on both accounts.


For some reason today I got Porno for Pyro's "Pets" in my head and I want it gone. I was never really a fan of that incarnation of Perry Farrell and as mentioned earlier, not a fan of "Been Caught Stealing" and would add "Jane Says" to that list.


And fuck everything David Lee Roth did after he left Van Halen the first time.


Paddlefoot - 3-19-2014 at 06:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Oh yeah, I hate their cover of Anarchy In The UK.


All I'm hoping for is that one of these Frank Constanza type of rants gets me into the memory jogger thread at least once this year.

Also, Tex is wrong about Jane Says. Hating Been Caught Stealing is completely acceptable. Hating anything that has Caribbean steel drums in it is simply wrong and deeply anti-human.


punkerhardcore - 3-19-2014 at 07:10 AM

That's what made the Girls Gone Wild commercials so awesome-- steel drums and titties.


williamssl - 3-20-2014 at 05:51 AM

Gonna go find a Nickelback song with steel drums and troll the hell out of you when I do, or they finally do a song with them.


denverpunk - 3-20-2014 at 04:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
Agreed with Paddle on "Run To The Hills." Amazing album but that's definitely my least favorite song off of it. Speaking of Maiden, I was never much of a fan of "Stranger In A Strange Land" off of "Somewhere In Time." I feel like the riff was trying to rip off "Shout At The Devil."



I loved Somewhere in Time. I always found "Stranger In a Strange Land" to sound a lot like Queensryche, though.

Great topic - I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Metallica. I can do without most of their Black Album onward, but "Fuel", "Unforgiven II", and "Don't Tread on Me" are the absolute pits.

Let's see...New Order's "True Faith". Great band, but I'm sick of that song. Led Zep's "All of My Love" and all of Plant's solo stuff sucks. The Cure's "Friday I'm In Love" is pretty awful. I'll think of more later.


williamssl - 3-20-2014 at 07:41 PM

Put 'Lovesong" on the top of the list for The Cure. Hate that one.

For Alice in Chains...."No Excuses"


Paddlefoot - 3-20-2014 at 08:00 PM

hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate

What are we doing here with all this hate? Writing new lyrics to Castratikron?


denverpunk - 3-21-2014 at 05:12 AM

Here's some more:

REM's "Everybody Hurts". Nice melody, but so whiny. Also, everything on Monster other than "Crush With Eyeliner".

U2's "Beautiful Day".

Michael Jackson's "Man In the Mirror". Always hated it.

Motley Crue's "Without You". Easily their shittiest ballad.

AC/DC's "Hell's Bells". I'll probably get shit for this one, but it's just boring to me.

Living Colour's "Cult of Personality". Great riff, but the song has aged really badly and is extremely overplayed. It's just not representative of their best stuff (Time's Up is one of my favorite albums of all times).

[Edited on 3-21-2014 by denverpunk]


gobbledygooker - 3-24-2014 at 08:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
Put 'Lovesong" on the top of the list for The Cure. Hate that one.


You're nuts. Overplayed, yes. But great song that has probably gotten millions of goth nerds laid that wouldn't have otherwise.


salmonjunkie - 3-24-2014 at 09:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk

Motley Crue's "Without You". Easily their shittiest ballad.


Oh shit, yeah, this one is bad.


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AC/DC's "Hell's Bells". I'll probably get shit for this one, but it's just boring to me.



AC/DC is the band that everyone likes but I don't. I think all AC/DC is boring except for Dirty Deeds.


williamssl - 3-25-2014 at 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by gobbledygooker
quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
Put 'Lovesong" on the top of the list for The Cure. Hate that one.


You're nuts. Overplayed, yes. But great song that has probably gotten millions of goth nerds laid that wouldn't have otherwise.



Goths repopulating. Making more goths. I can't think of anything positive about that. More reason to hate the overplayed shitty song.


gobbledygooker - 3-25-2014 at 01:28 AM

Ha!

Agreed on the AC/DC indifference, Thai. I realize many bands have the same sound, more or less, record-to-record but they are SERIOUSLY of the "every song sounds the same" ilk.


denverpunk - 3-25-2014 at 05:36 AM

I love AC/DC with Bon Scott. I never liked them with Brian Johnson; that's where every song sounds the same. I won't ever understand how "Money Talks" became such a big hit.


CVD39 - 3-26-2014 at 06:52 AM

I love old Johnny Cash and some of his American Recording stuff with Rick Rubin was good but I cannot for the life of me take his cover of Hurt seriously.

And Tex, No Excuses is great.

AC/DC is one of my favorite bands but even I agree that most of their stuff sounds the same. And some of those 80's albums are just the same old same old. With the exception of those, it seems every album in the Johnson years has a few great songs and then the rest are just filler. But Back In Black is just an amazing album from front to back, even their "filler" songs.

[Edited on 3-26-2014 by CVD39]


gobbledygooker - 3-26-2014 at 03:44 PM

In the vein of "bands you love with songs that all sound the same (for the most part)" - Motorhead! I freakin' love me some Motorhead but let's call a spade a spade (or ACE of spades in this case, AMIRITE?!?)


CVD39 - 3-27-2014 at 12:37 AM

Yeah, Motörhead is probably worse about than anyone. But it's cool. Because it's Motörhead.

I also like how Motörhead automatically gets autocorrected.


williamssl - 3-27-2014 at 06:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CVD39
And Tex, No Excuses is great.



This is Alice in Chains at their absolute pop-iest radio friendly worst. And it got (and still gets) too much radio airplay because it is pop-y and radio friendly. And therefore sucks relative to their overall body of work, and in general. Please just accept that I am right.


denverpunk - 3-27-2014 at 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by williamssl

This is Alice in Chains at their absolute pop-iest radio friendly worst. And it got (and still gets) too much radio airplay because it is pop-y and radio friendly. And therefore sucks relative to their overall body of work, and in general. Please just accept that I am right.


I hear ya. "No Excuses" had bongos for Chrissakes.

I can't look at that whole era too fondly. I liked Nirvana/AIC/Pearl Jam/Soundgarden as much as the next guy, but the groups they spawned were all so fucking awful. How many turks formed bands with pseudo-Cobain lyrics, sludgy AIC chords, and a singer doing his worst Eddie Vedder "yeaAHH" imitation? All of 'em, that's how many. Worse yet, at the time I lived in Florida where Creed started and got way too much airplay, which was just so brutal. The "modern rock" station there still plays Candlebox regularly. There was a lot to rebel against in that shithole.


williamssl - 3-27-2014 at 03:14 PM

When you started your second paragraph, I immediately thought of Creed and Candlebox, so right there with you.


Although I now have that one majorly retched Candlebox song stuck in my head. The one that says "suffer" and "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah", which is spot on for me this moment.


gobbledygooker - 3-27-2014 at 03:50 PM

In a cruel twist of irony, my first concert ever was Metallica in 1994 and Alice In Chains was supposed to open but Layne was going through some of his "issues" so who took their place?? Wait for it.....wait for it......

CANDLEBOX!!


salmonjunkie - 3-27-2014 at 06:03 PM

I went to that show in San Diego. I had already seen Metallica twice by then and my main readon for getting those tickets was to see AIC.

This was the lineup:
Metallica
Candlebox (ugh)
Suicidal Tendencies (yeah!)
Fight (Rob Halford's kinda crappy but pretty heavy band that did the very cool "Little Crazy" song that was Sabu's entrance theme in ECW)

My guess: They wanted another Seattle band to tour with them, but Soundgarden was busy and Nirvana was dead. Yes, Candlebox are from Seattle.

That being said, if the new AIC with William DuVall as lead singer comes to your town - GO SEE THEM. I know it's not Layne, but he's great, they still sound like AIC, their old songs sound great with him, and their new material with him is good.

And screw you guys. I liked No Excuses.


[Edited on 3-27-2014 by salmonjunkie]


Paddlefoot - 3-27-2014 at 06:56 PM

I thought that Cantrell was doing the bulk of the vocals now and the new guy was more of a backing singer.


salmonjunkie - 3-27-2014 at 07:21 PM

No, they both do leads - Cantrell does more than he used to, but William still does at least half of them. It's similar to the Tripod album, where Cantrell started doing more leads, or they both do leads in a song, and they do a lot more harmonies than before. DuVall and Cantrell sing harmonies, it sounds very much like Layne and Cantrell harmonies.

William sings all of Layne's parts in the older songs and is placed in center of the stage. For all the new songs, he plays rhythm guitar as well but for all the old songs, it's just him and the mic.


Paddlefoot - 3-27-2014 at 08:09 PM

Works for me regardless. I thought Lesson Learned turned out to be the best song any version of AIC's ever done.


denverpunk - 3-27-2014 at 11:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
Although I now have that one majorly retched Candlebox song stuck in my head. The one that says "suffer" and "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah", which is spot on for me this moment.


From what I remember, all of Candlebox's songs had that "yeah yeah yeah yeah" chorus. I wish SNL had done some sort of spoof on those commercials selling hits collections with '90s grunge, where every song had some form of "yeah yeah YEAH" playing.


desjr001 - 3-29-2014 at 09:23 PM


gobbledygooker - 4-1-2014 at 09:47 PM

I'm not afraid to admit that I liked the first Candlebox album! Granted, I was a 13-14-year-old kid who had Seattle fever and would digest anything with long hair and angst-ridden lyrics (aka their target audience) but I still say there were some good songs on that first album.


williamssl - 4-1-2014 at 10:15 PM


Paddlefoot - 4-2-2014 at 01:56 AM

Turn it around into a "what are you embarrassed to have in your music collection" thing.

Uhhhmm. Some Creed. Some Hinder. And a genuinely shocking/horrifying amount of Nickelback.


denverpunk - 4-2-2014 at 06:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Turn it around into a "what are you embarrassed to have in your music collection" thing.

Uhhhmm. Some Creed. Some Hinder. And a genuinely shocking/horrifying amount of Nickelback.


Oh boy, we could have several field days with this one. I have plenty that would be embarrassing, but I'll start with...

...Savage Garden's first album. I'd like to say it's just because girls love it, but there are some surprisingly good songs on it. Goodbye, metal cred.


gobbledygooker - 4-3-2014 at 09:44 PM

Oh my God. I think we're all going to have to ban ourselves.

I never owned one of their albums but I once liked Creed as a straight-up RAWK! antidote to the rap-rock that was getting increasingly annoying circa '99-'00.


Paddlefoot - 4-3-2014 at 09:58 PM

We can give them shit all we want for the quality of their lyrics or their overall pretentious presentation but at least guys like Scott Stapp and Chad Kroeger have the voices for rock n roll. Beats the sort of godawful fucking shit, even if the guitar/bass/drums still sound sort of rock-like, that's been coming out ever since some feeble-voiced freak like Jack White got so inexplicably popular about ten years ago.


bigfatgoalie - 4-4-2014 at 02:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
at least guys like Scott Stapp and Chad Kroeger have the voices for rock n roll.


So you want your rock and roll to sound like Cher?

And if you like something, you like something. Being embarrassed about the music you like and enjoy is silly. In high school I had a carrying case for my disc man (which was so cool...ah, the 90's) and my friend lost her mine when she asked what I had in it. The answer? Van Halen - Best of Volume 1; Spice Girls - Spice; and Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar. She was convinced that no one person should like all of those records, let alone own all 3. I just shrugged and went on with my day.

More recently I had a friend go though my iTunes library and expressed his hatred that I had every one of Selena Gomez's albums, but no NIN. I put on the Misfits and drowned out his whining.

As for songs you hate by artist you love...Coldplay - Yellow. Terrible song, and I've purchased every Coldplay cd except the first one. Just a god awful song with one of the worst videos ever.


gobbledygooker - 4-4-2014 at 02:37 PM

Nerd.


williamssl - 4-4-2014 at 05:32 PM

Man...my CD collection has so much crap in it...I would probably win this contest or if not be top 3.

I have...

The first 3 CD's by Debbie Gibson. Only in my dreams, baby!
Culture Club's Greatest Hits
Gerardo's first one (or only one?) Rico Suave!
Vanilla Ice's first one. Ice Ice Baby!
A shit ton of glam hair "metal" including Great White, White Lion, Whitesnake (or Great While Lionsnake as my friends refer to that trifecta), Slaughter, Cinderella, Faster Pussycat, Warrant, Winger...list goes on and on although I am very proud of this portion of my collection
A bunch of Pat Benatar
The Nickelback one that has the old Raw theme on it
KC and the Sunshine Band Greatest Hits
Adam Ant/and the Ants - a bunch
Bananarama - a bunch
Spandau Ballet Greatest Hits
Psuedo Echo

I'm a product of the 80's and early 90's so if it was popular then regardless of genre, I probably have it.


Paddlefoot - 4-4-2014 at 05:42 PM

Winger. Heh-heh-heh.


Thom - 4-4-2014 at 06:58 PM

Recent picture of Tex:


denverpunk - 4-4-2014 at 07:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
Man...my CD collection has so much crap in it...I would probably win this contest or if not be top 3.

A shit ton of glam hair "metal" including Great White, White Lion, Whitesnake (or Great While Lionsnake as my friends refer to that trifecta), Slaughter, Cinderella, Faster Pussycat, Warrant, Winger...list goes on and on although I am very proud of this portion of my collection.


This. It's hard to explain or quantify my love of Dokken, but I still listen to most of their albums, even the ones after their peak.

I also just spent 40 dollars to see Queensryche.

[Edited on 4-4-2014 by denverpunk]


gobbledygooker - 4-4-2014 at 07:42 PM

Originally posted by denverpunk

quote:


I also just spent 40 dollars to see Queensryche.


Todd Latorre version or Geoff Tate version?

I like way more Lady Gaga than any straight male should.

I hate all "butt rock" bands (i.e. All That Remains, Five Finger Death Punch, et. al.) but Halestorm has quite a few catchy tunes. They do butt rock right.

And agreed that hair metal is nothing to scoff at! I saw Bret Michaels' solo band last Friday night and that dude and his wig can still BRING IT!

[Edited on 4-4-2014 by gobbledygooker]


punkerhardcore - 4-4-2014 at 07:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
I like way more Lady Gaga than any straight male should.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjC1r72hYgQ


gobbledygooker - 4-4-2014 at 07:56 PM

^^^^^^^^

I'm not clicking on that until I'm safely off my work computer.


williamssl - 4-4-2014 at 09:05 PM

Safe to click. And true of you.


denverpunk - 4-4-2014 at 10:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
Todd Latorre version or Geoff Tate version?


Tate. The guy's a douche for what he's done, but they were playing Mindcrime in its entirety and he's the voice. The new band sounded pretty great, honestly.

The new Latorre album? It's not half-bad, and certainly miles better than anything past Promised Land. I'd like DeGarmo back, though.

Here's a pic:



quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygookerI hate all "butt rock" bands (i.e. All That Remains, Five Finger Death Punch, et. al.) but Halestorm has quite a few catchy tunes. They do butt rock right.


This, too. It helps that Halestorm has a hot girl singing like Pat Benatar. Their cover of "Slave to the Grind" is terrible, though. Those other bands are awful, agreed.

[Edited on 4-4-2014 by denverpunk]


CamstunPWG187 - 4-6-2014 at 05:28 AM

....But I like Candlebox's first album.


gobbledygooker - 4-6-2014 at 07:36 PM

Since this has pretty much morphed into a discussion of 90's music...did anyone else love Letters To Cleo? I bought all two of their albums.


denverpunk - 4-11-2014 at 03:39 AM

Ah, yes. I remember "Here and Now." Not my favorite, but very catchy and never got switched off the radio when it came on. Also, it's very easy to learn to play.

Here's another one: Urge Overkill.


gobbledygooker - 4-12-2014 at 05:47 PM

This was pretty much my only exposure to Urge Overkill but goddamn I love this song and they made their mark on one of the greatest films ever so good on them.


denverpunk - 4-13-2014 at 06:43 PM

Here's one of Urge's hits from the era (maybe the only one). I always liked them - they've got a little Cheap Trick to their sound.


Paddlefoot - 4-13-2014 at 08:54 PM

Add Positive Bleeding onto the list and you've got the trio of the only songs UO did that were worth listening to.


denverpunk - 4-14-2014 at 05:53 AM

I dunno - I thought Saturation was a damned solid album. Everything else from UO was pretty questionable, though. Critics pretty much savaged them on sight for not being mopey and angry like the popular bands of the day, but a little glam never hurt anybody. STP kind of ripped them off on their third album (not coincidentally, the album of theirs I liked the best).


Paddlefoot - 10-19-2014 at 07:52 AM

Anyone ever notice that sometimes a band's signature song turns into something that can't be tolerated? I mentioned it earlier with Iron Maiden's Run To The Hills. I'd also add things in like GNR's Welcome To The Jungle, Nivana's Smells Like Teen Spirit, or Rush's Tom Sawyer. I'd probably live/die/kill/eat/fuck/shit for all of those bands but sometimes when they're official Most Greatest Song starts playing I have to turn it off ASAP. I put it down to the bullshit effect that commercial FM radio has on things. Take GNR as an example. I figure they've got at least a dozen to twenty other songs besides Welcome To The Jungle that I'd rather hear. Thanks to corporate franchise FM radio when one hears a GNR song it's likely, like nine times out of ten, to be WTTJ. If not it's then either Sweet Child Of Mine or Paradise City which have also been overplayed so much over the years to be almost unlistenable.

I know it all comes down to personal taste but holy fuck does the radio ever do a number on some songs by literally playing them to death. I know I'd mark out at a concert to hear Rush play Tom Sawyer live but when it's on the radio it's pretty much change the channel ASAP. They talk about newspapers dying out thanks to modern technology. It's be pretty damn good if the same sort of effect, either thru Sirius or people using Sync/USB systems to play their own things as they wanted, happened to FM radio. Radio when I was younger turned me into the music fan I am today. I don't know if they got worse or if I just got too old but now I can't even listen to it anymore thanks to some of the stupid things they keep doing.


salmonjunkie - 10-20-2014 at 08:58 PM

radio? what's that?


gobbledygooker - 10-28-2014 at 01:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Anyone ever notice that sometimes a band's signature song turns into something that can't be tolerated? I mentioned it earlier with Iron Maiden's Run To The Hills. I'd also add things in like GNR's Welcome To The Jungle, Nivana's Smells Like Teen Spirit, or Rush's Tom Sawyer. I'd probably live/die/kill/eat/fuck/shit for all of those bands but sometimes when they're official Most Greatest Song starts playing I have to turn it off ASAP. I put it down to the bullshit effect that commercial FM radio has on things. Take GNR as an example. I figure they've got at least a dozen to twenty other songs besides Welcome To The Jungle that I'd rather hear. Thanks to corporate franchise FM radio when one hears a GNR song it's likely, like nine times out of ten, to be WTTJ. If not it's then either Sweet Child Of Mine or Paradise City which have also been overplayed so much over the years to be almost unlistenable.

I know it all comes down to personal taste but holy fuck does the radio ever do a number on some songs by literally playing them to death. I know I'd mark out at a concert to hear Rush play Tom Sawyer live but when it's on the radio it's pretty much change the channel ASAP. They talk about newspapers dying out thanks to modern technology. It's be pretty damn good if the same sort of effect, either thru Sirius or people using Sync/USB systems to play their own things as they wanted, happened to FM radio. Radio when I was younger turned me into the music fan I am today. I don't know if they got worse or if I just got too old but now I can't even listen to it anymore thanks to some of the stupid things they keep doing.


I think this phenomenon can also be blamed on sporting events. You can pretty much guarantee that you'll hear the opening of "Welcome To The Jungle" or "Hell's Bells" or "The Final Countdown" during any football game you might be viewing. And the most random one I've ever seen - Crowds of all sports adopting the "Seven Nation Army" melody. Where the fuck did that come from? I saw Jack White in concert a month or two ago and I thought he might not play it due to oversaturation and sure enough he closed with it and the crowd went fucking bonkers, natch.


Paddlefoot - 11-9-2014 at 06:52 AM

I actually give my bitching a break if the signature song happens in a concert. Just because I, or someone else, doesn't like the signature song doesn't mean that the band playing it does. Plus it always gives the crowd a cheap pop, plus it can also turn out to be something unique if the band does something beyond the commercial version like Foo Fighters did when they began playing Times Like These in concert done acoustically.

Most of my complaints revolve around the industry, which is distinctly different from the medium. The medium is the artists working their asses off to earn what they get. The industry is the recording labels and radio pricks that don't want to move past beating a dead horse some more.

[Edited on 11/9/2014 by Paddlefoot]


bopol - 12-22-2014 at 03:42 AM

Tesla - Love Song.

The band had some great licks - Modern Day Cowboy, Changes, Edison's Medicine and was the better hard rock bands from the late 80s, but this song is a dog. I hated the late 80s early 90s hit when the only rock songs that got radio play were the infamous power ballad. This is one of the worst power ballads from one of the better bands of the era.

I agree with Tom Sawyer and Rush. It isn't that Tom Sawyer is a bad song; it's just the worst song on Moving Pictures.


BBMN - 1-14-2016 at 05:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
YES. Worst song in their entire library. So much good Soundgarden and THAT piece of shit is what they're most known for.


I wouldn't say it sucks. It just got overplayed, and was so polished and anti-Badmotorfinger. I liked it at first, but after hearing it a hundred times was bored of it. Plus it still gets radio play, while songs like Jesus Christ Pose and Born on the 4th of July NEVER get played.

I feel the same way about Spoonman. Another okay song that went waaaay further than I understood.


salmonjunkie - 1-14-2016 at 07:29 PM

Fell On Black Days is by far the better "slow song" from Soundgarden.


denverpunk - 3-16-2016 at 10:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Fell On Black Days is by far the better "slow song" from Soundgarden.


Agreed. But anyone who says Black Hole Sun is Soundgarden's worst song ought to give Big Dumb Sex a spin. Hell, aside from the riff, Spoonman is garbage, too.


maclen - 4-4-2016 at 01:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
I know I'd mark out at a concert to hear Rush play Tom Sawyer live but when it's on the radio it's pretty much change the channel ASAP.


Same here basically. Although I don't hate "Tom Sawyer", I always wonder why they don't play other songs from their vast catalog, even old catalog.

The one I can't stand is "Closer To The Heart". It's always on the set list. My huge dislike of the song is such that even during their live shows I go grab a pretzel and/or pee.


Paddlefoot - 4-4-2016 at 02:46 AM

OMG! A rare Maclen sighting!




CVD39 - 4-20-2016 at 05:47 PM

I was wondering wh he changed his av.

Never liked Rush although my brother is a huge fan. The only two Rush songs I like are Free Will and.....Closer to the Heart.


Also, I still don't tire of hearing Love Song by Tesla.


maclen - 4-21-2016 at 08:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
OMG! A rare Maclen sighting!






Ha! I didn't think anyone remembered anymore! The shower cap kid. The mysterious avatar that nobody really wanted to ask about until an astute OOster spotted the kid on the nascent WWE channel or whatever it is.

It should have won Avatar of the Year, but it never did. Bastuhrds!

quote:
Originally posted by CVD39
I was wondering wh he changed his av.


Honestly (and keep in mind this was years ago!) the page that hosted the image went belly up and I didn't have the image saved, can you believe that? And I never bothered to dig out my old VHS player in order to make another screen cap. With technology having advanced the way it has, and with the availability of the video, perhaps I should go back to it again, although I'm fond of "Inappropriate Behavior Channel" metalhead guy over there (see if you get THAT reference! )

I miss you guys.

[Edited on 4-21-2016 by maclen]


salmonjunkie - 4-21-2016 at 08:33 PM

It should win Avatar of the Century!


maclen - 4-21-2016 at 09:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
It should win Avatar of the Century!


Thanks Thai. Hey, are you still playing? I started playing again in my old age!


Youreame92 - 8-4-2016 at 01:35 PM

Radiohead - Creep


salmonjunkie - 8-4-2016 at 07:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by maclen
quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
It should win Avatar of the Century!


Thanks Thai. Hey, are you still playing? I started playing again in my old age!


I didn't see this until now, sorry!

I am and I'm not still playing. In that, I'm no longer in a serious band that has dreams and tours and all that. I still jam with some guys and we're looking to record soon and do some shows, but it's just going to be locally. We're all ex-dreamers turned to day-job guys now.


the goon - 8-6-2016 at 01:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
I am and I'm not still playing. In that, I'm no longer in a serious band that has dreams and tours and all that. I still jam with some guys and we're looking to record soon and do some shows, but it's just going to be locally. We're all ex-dreamers turned to day-job guys now.


Just to derail this thread even further, man, I am slowly getting to that point (just turned 35 back in May...fuuuuuuucccckkkkkk). I played in and around the Charlotte area for the last four years with my band and we did okay, in fact better than I ever dreamed we would, but never hit any kind of big local success. Now the band is kind of unofficially broken up and I'm at that crossroads where I'm thinking "hmmm...am I too old to rock?" Like, I feel I like I still have so much more dope ass music to make, but at the same time I don't want to eventually be that 40 year-old guy onstage still chasing his dream that all the younger folk are snickering at.

And a fun fact: salmonjunkie and I messaged back and forth a couple of years ago about doing a show together when his band was on tour, but sadly it never materialized (mainly because Charlotte kind of sucks for local music and getting a response from a music venue here can be like pulling teeth).


denverpunk - 8-8-2016 at 09:02 PM

Happens to the best of us. I actually got paid to play a few gigs when I was living in Europe, so technically I could call myself a former professional musician. But for rock star kind of success? I turn forty in four days, and that ship has definitely sailed. But it was damned fun while I did it.


Thom - 8-11-2016 at 02:50 PM

Dude, I haven't even touched my basses - except to move them from one corner of the basement to another - in 2+ years. I get on a kick every few months where I'll dick around on my keys for a while, but I haven't even done that in 3-4 months. And guitar? I tried that a year or so ago, but my fingers were going in all the wrong spots. Yeah - looks like I'm pretty much done. I should really start thinking about selling my stuff.


salmonjunkie - 8-11-2016 at 06:46 PM

yea, I turned 40 this year, and became a manager at work a year and a half ago. Fuck, I've become what I tried hard not to be - middle management desk job in my 40s.

BUT THE BENEFITS!


the goon - 8-14-2016 at 11:11 PM

Yeah, time and reality have a way of setting in on us musician types at some point. *sigh*

There's a metal band here in Charlotte that's pretty successful locally and seemingly have some money behind them (presumably from one of their parents, as they have top of the line gear, merch, promotion, etc). Recently I saw one of their guitar players, who is like a 21 year-old metal chick, post on Facebook something along the lines of "I could never work a normal 9-5 job and am so glad I get to play in a band with my friends and not have to be a part of the everyday rat race!" And all I wanted to do was reply with "Wait until you're 30 and still trying to make it big in music and you're unemployed and still living at home with your parents, you fucking bitch!"

Not that I'm bitter or anything.


salmonjunkie - 8-15-2016 at 05:29 PM

on the flipside, I'm pretty good friends with the guys from a hard rock band, Windowpane, who are based here in Seattle. They're an awesome band who have toured with Tesla, Queensryche, 5 Finger Death Punch, and just played a festival in Montana on Saturday opening up for Buckcherry. They sell out our local bigger music venue that national touring acts don't always sell out.

They're also all in their 40s, older than me, none of them have regular day jobs and are pretty much paycheck-to-paycheck with no benefits (some of them are married to good women who have day jobs, but some of them are struggling). I have mad respect for these guys, and when they perform, they don't seem like a bunch of dudes too old to be up there, still hanging on. They just look like what they are - a badass rock band.

I've said before to close friends that as jealous as I am that they are still trying to make it, still making new records, new fans, etc, I wouldn't want to be in my 40s and financially struggling. And I guess that's the tradeoff. Because now that I'm where I am, doing my 9 to 5 and going home to a nice meal and then to retire to my couch to watch the next Netflix blockbuster or episode of the CWC and content, until I watch what my friends in this band and in other bands are still doing - still out there hustling, still out there hitting the road, and getting on the stage and performing, and I think - holy shit I miss that - and maybe I'm still not too old for that.

Or maybe I just need to find a fun band that has a monthly residency at a local bar and I'll be happy with that.


Thom - no more playing? I thought you had some dudes you were jamming with.


Thom - 8-16-2016 at 02:24 PM

Not for a while. I had one band that recorded an album - the sound was utter garbage. Then I left and joined another band - I think I posted the pics of us recording a demo here, as I seem to remember gooker or goon asking me about my 5-string - but we broke up a couple of years ago. Since then, I did some football officiating and took some more classes - no time for a band.

Back on topic, since sj happened to mention Queensr˙che in his post, they have a song on their latest album named, "Just Us." Ugh. The rest of the songs on the album I either like or love. That one, though, just no.


gobbledygooker - 8-18-2016 at 12:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
I've said before to close friends that as jealous as I am that they are still trying to make it, still making new records, new fans, etc, I wouldn't want to be in my 40s and financially struggling. And I guess that's the tradeoff. Because now that I'm where I am, doing my 9 to 5 and going home to a nice meal and then to retire to my couch to watch the next Netflix blockbuster or episode of the CWC and content, until I watch what my friends in this band and in other bands are still doing - still out there hustling, still out there hitting the road, and getting on the stage and performing, and I think - holy shit I miss that - and maybe I'm still not too old for that.


Not to dive-bomb on this "live musicians-only" thread but the above is basically a perfect summary of why I'm sure most of us do the grind (minus the getting back on stage part). Those days that just SUCK at work I just think about the decent paycheck I make and the fun things it affords me to do and that keeps me going. As the saying goes - I work to live; not live to work. I'm in property management so if THAT shit was your passion growing up, you should seek immediate psychiatric counseling.

Plus, my girlfriend is pregnant so that paycheck is more important than ever


the goon - 8-20-2016 at 03:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
on the flipside, I'm pretty good friends with the guys from a hard rock band, Windowpane, who are based here in Seattle. They're an awesome band who have toured with Tesla, Queensryche, 5 Finger Death Punch, and just played a festival in Montana on Saturday opening up for Buckcherry. They sell out our local bigger music venue that national touring acts don't always sell out.

They're also all in their 40s, older than me, none of them have regular day jobs and are pretty much paycheck-to-paycheck with no benefits (some of them are married to good women who have day jobs, but some of them are struggling). I have mad respect for these guys, and when they perform, they don't seem like a bunch of dudes too old to be up there, still hanging on. They just look like what they are - a badass rock band.


Yeah, that's a valid point and shows it is possible to do it into your 40's. I guess I was thinking more about being the 40-something year old guy who doesn't look like a rock star but is still trying to rock onstage and thinks that that one big break is going to happen at any moment.

I do kinda take inspiration from the late, great Peter Steele of Type O Negative though. I saw a quote from one of his friends or former bandmates (can't remember which) one time where he basically said "Peter would have been perfectly happy keeping his day job with the NYC Department of Parks and Recreation and just playing shows on the weekends and putting out albums at his own leisure, but then the band got too popular." So if working 9 to 5 and playing/releasing music around that would have been good enough for Peter Steele, then it's good enough for me.


maclen - 9-11-2017 at 08:46 PM

Hey doodz!

So, I'm back to the conversation a year and a half later. Better late than never, right?

Yeah, I played in a band in my younger years, and we were getting a bit of a local following. Band drama derailed everything, and I had to finish school anyway, so I did that, then got a job, then got married, started a family...

When my son grew up, finished his Eagle, graduated HS and went off to college (I'm older than you guys - not by much), someone who knew I used to play asked if I'd be willing to play in his band. I told him that at that point I was a hack and would just stink the place up. He insisted though, and the rest is history, as they say.

Fast forward three years or so, I'm one of the most sought-after bassists / rhythm guitarists / vocalists in the area! Actually, I'm not, but I've been playing constantly since then. The one thing is that I do it strictly as a hobby and for fun. If some $$ comes my way, then gravy, but I'm content with a drink ticket and/or a sandwich! Some guys go fishing, some guys play golf, some guys watch wrestling, I play in two bands! Oh! And I just hit 16 years at work.

Still miss you guys!